From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: =?utf-8?Q?Ludovic_Court=C3=A8s?= Subject: Re: [PATCH] gnu: Add ungoogled-chromium. Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2019 23:34:45 +0100 Message-ID: <87sgx3mbcq.fsf@gnu.org> References: <20190202192023.22087-1-mbakke@fastmail.com> <87k1igpwk8.fsf@dismail.de> <20190203235204.63970587@parabola> Reply-To: Workgroup for fully free GNU/Linux distributions Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-path: In-Reply-To: <20190203235204.63970587@parabola> (bill-auger's message of "Sun, 3 Feb 2019 23:52:04 -0500") List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: gnu-linux-libre-bounces+gldg-gnu-linux-libre=m.gmane.org@nongnu.org Sender: "gnu-linux-libre" To: bill-auger Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org, 28004@debbugs.gnu.org, gnu-linux-libre@nongnu.org List-Id: guix-devel.gnu.org Hi bill-auger, bill-auger skribis: > re: https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guix-devel/2019-02/msg00009.html > > i would like to remind readers of the guix-devel list that it was > discussed some months ago, why no FSDG distros currently distribute > chromium[1] - it appeared at that time, that most people in that > discussion were in agreement that chromium should not be included in > guix; and marius was instead hosting it in a private repo, as not to > taint the main guix repos with dubious software - has there been a > notable break-through since then? It=E2=80=99s not entirely clear to me what the problems are, to be honest. Marius listed specific issues that were addressed by the patches; others then pointed out at additional issues that ungoogled-chromium fixes, which Marius took into account; what=E2=80=99s left now? I understand you=E2=80=99re skeptical about Chromium, but we cannot base decisions based on vague skepticism. If you know of issues that are still unaddressed, please do list them. I=E2=80=99d also like to stress that, if Chromium is eventually included in Guix, we are committed to fixing it or removing it should someone later discover that it does not comply with the FSDG (that=E2=80=99s the =E2=80= =9CCommitment to Correct Mistakes=E2=80=9D section of FSDG.) > i would like to consider all FSDG distros as being part of a larger > federation, sharing the same primary goals; As you know, several of us have occasionally asked for advice on the gnu-linux-libre list regarding concrete issues that we encountered (a recent example was Inferno, which we ended up not adding to the distro due to unresolved issues.) I believe Marius and others here made a real effort in understanding and addressing the ways in which Chromium would not comply with the FSDG. If you=E2=80=99re aware of issues that are unaddressed, please share! Thank you, Ludo=E2=80=99. From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:38466) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gqmpV-0003G9-0T for guix-patches@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Feb 2019 17:35:08 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gqmpT-000225-4V for guix-patches@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Feb 2019 17:35:04 -0500 Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:60545) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gqmpS-000215-Ne for guix-patches@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Feb 2019 17:35:03 -0500 Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gqmpS-00029o-D0 for guix-patches@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Feb 2019 17:35:02 -0500 Subject: [bug#28004] [PATCH] gnu: Add ungoogled-chromium. Resent-Message-ID: From: Ludovic =?UTF-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?= References: <20190202192023.22087-1-mbakke@fastmail.com> <87k1igpwk8.fsf@dismail.de> <20190203235204.63970587@parabola> Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2019 23:34:45 +0100 In-Reply-To: <20190203235204.63970587@parabola> (bill-auger's message of "Sun, 3 Feb 2019 23:52:04 -0500") Message-ID: <87sgx3mbcq.fsf@gnu.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-patches-bounces+kyle=kyleam.com@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-patches" To: bill-auger Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org, 28004@debbugs.gnu.org, gnu-linux-libre@nongnu.org Hi bill-auger, bill-auger skribis: > re: https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guix-devel/2019-02/msg00009.html > > i would like to remind readers of the guix-devel list that it was > discussed some months ago, why no FSDG distros currently distribute > chromium[1] - it appeared at that time, that most people in that > discussion were in agreement that chromium should not be included in > guix; and marius was instead hosting it in a private repo, as not to > taint the main guix repos with dubious software - has there been a > notable break-through since then? It=E2=80=99s not entirely clear to me what the problems are, to be honest. Marius listed specific issues that were addressed by the patches; others then pointed out at additional issues that ungoogled-chromium fixes, which Marius took into account; what=E2=80=99s left now? I understand you=E2=80=99re skeptical about Chromium, but we cannot base decisions based on vague skepticism. If you know of issues that are still unaddressed, please do list them. I=E2=80=99d also like to stress that, if Chromium is eventually included in Guix, we are committed to fixing it or removing it should someone later discover that it does not comply with the FSDG (that=E2=80=99s the =E2=80= =9CCommitment to Correct Mistakes=E2=80=9D section of FSDG.) > i would like to consider all FSDG distros as being part of a larger > federation, sharing the same primary goals; As you know, several of us have occasionally asked for advice on the gnu-linux-libre list regarding concrete issues that we encountered (a recent example was Inferno, which we ended up not adding to the distro due to unresolved issues.) I believe Marius and others here made a real effort in understanding and addressing the ways in which Chromium would not comply with the FSDG. If you=E2=80=99re aware of issues that are unaddressed, please share! Thank you, Ludo=E2=80=99.