From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Tobias Geerinckx-Rice Subject: Re: User shell: state or config? Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2019 20:03:32 +0200 Message-ID: <87sgu60xor.fsf@nckx> References: <874l6mpduo.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:43341) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hJiin-00061E-JK for guix-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 25 Apr 2019 14:03:46 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hJiik-0002zF-Tl for guix-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 25 Apr 2019 14:03:45 -0400 Received: from tobias.gr ([2001:470:7405::1]:49462) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hJiik-0002wo-8d for guix-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 25 Apr 2019 14:03:42 -0400 Received: by tobias.gr (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 445a18d6 for ; Thu, 25 Apr 2019 18:03:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: by submission.tobias.gr (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPSA id 8aae7a8b (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256:NO) for ; Thu, 25 Apr 2019 18:03:35 +0000 (UTC) In-reply-to: List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+gcggd-guix-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" To: guix-devel@gnu.org --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ludo', all, mikadoZero wrote: > Ludovic Court=C3=A8s writes: [=E2=80=A6] >> However, thinking more about it, I=E2=80=99m not sure if considering=20 >> shells as >> state is such a good idea, for several reasons: >> >> 1. It=E2=80=99s surprising that =E2=80=98guix system reconfigure=E2=80= =99 doesn=E2=80=99t=20 >> actually >> change the shell, as Tanguy reported. > > As a new user of Guix System I was recently surprised by this as=20 > well. > I was expecting the shell to be managed by configuration. As an old user, I agree ;-) It's so surprising because we don't set =E2=80=98user-overridable=20 defaults=E2=80=99 for state anywhere else. You can't reason about your=20 system the way you used to. The config is a lie. > All in all, I=E2=80=99m in favor of switching back to the previous=20 > behavior: > considering user shells as system config. That=E2=80=99s a one-line=20 > change in > (gnu build accounts). +1! Kind regards, T G-R --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iHUEARYKAB0WIQT12iAyS4c9C3o4dnINsP+IT1VteQUCXMH2dAAKCRANsP+IT1Vt eYNqAQDcP2BHUyyWNCCUD+VTM+xXLiCDGHub5QqJRJL0/7eMmAEA+Itrm2Yq2oD4 WMYg3lqj4eAvRTd/H8F4cXJdasQryAA= =tYj0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--