Fixing and maintenance of emacs-guix (guix.el)

Fixing and maintenance of emacs-guix (guix.el)

[John Soo]

Hi Guix,

emacs-guix (also known as guix.el) has been broken for some time.

I submitted https://gitlab.com/emacs-guix/emacs-guix/-/merge_requests/8
to support guix versions >= 1.1.  However, two changes also have to
occur for proper support.

* Some bindings will need to be exposed on the guix side. I submitted
  patches for this already: https://issues.guix.gnu.org/44619

* The guix package in gnu/packages/package-management.scm will need to
  refer to a commit including those patches.

That leads to a more nebulous question: should there be "stable" and
"unstable" versions of the guix package in guix?  Stable might be pinned
to a release, but guix-unstable might be updated occasionally.

What do you think?

- John

Re: Fixing and maintenance of emacs-guix (guix.el)

[Ludovic Courtès]

Hi John,

John Soo <jsoo1@asu.edu> skribis:

> I submitted https://gitlab.com/emacs-guix/emacs-guix/-/merge_requests/8
> to support guix versions >= 1.1.  However, two changes also have to
> occur for proper support.
>
> * Some bindings will need to be exposed on the guix side. I submitted
>   patches for this already: https://issues.guix.gnu.org/44619
>
> * The guix package in gnu/packages/package-management.scm will need to
>   refer to a commit including those patches.
>
> That leads to a more nebulous question: should there be "stable" and
> "unstable" versions of the guix package in guix?  Stable might be pinned
> to a release, but guix-unstable might be updated occasionally.

As I wrote in another message before reaching this one, my understanding
is that “we” now have to take over maintenance of Emacs-Guix.  As part
of that process, we can discuss what interfaces would be useful to
Emacs-Guix and arrange to keep them stable.

I think we can do more if the two are developed hand in hand.  Let’s see
what we can achieve!

Ludo’.

Re: Fixing and maintenance of emacs-guix (guix.el)

[John Soo]

Hi Ludo,

Ludovic Courtès <ludo@gnu.org> writes:

> As I wrote in another message before reaching this one, my understanding
> is that “we” now have to take over maintenance of Emacs-Guix.  As part
> of that process, we can discuss what interfaces would be useful to
> Emacs-Guix and arrange to keep them stable.
>
> I think we can do more if the two are developed hand in hand.  Let’s see
> what we can achieve!

Exciting!

What do we do next?

- John

Re: Fixing and maintenance of emacs-guix (guix.el)

[zimoun]

Hi John,

Thank you for reviving guix.el. :-)

On Fri, 13 Nov 2020 at 07:44, John Soo <jsoo1@asu.edu> wrote:

> * The guix package in gnu/packages/package-management.scm will need to
>   refer to a commit including those patches.
>
> That leads to a more nebulous question: should there be "stable" and
> "unstable" versions of the guix package in guix?  Stable might be pinned
> to a release, but guix-unstable might be updated occasionally.

The package emacs-guix depends on the package guix because of reasons I
am not sure to well understand to explain them.  The same problem, IIUC,
happens with Guix Workflow Language (package gwl).  Ricardo provided a
draft patch here:

  https://yhetil.org/guix-devel/87tuuayplb.fsf@elephly.net

Well, maybe one way to answer to this nebulous question should to put
some love in this direction.  I do not know, maybe I miss the point.


All the best,
simon

Re: Fixing and maintenance of emacs-guix (guix.el)

[Pierre Neidhardt]

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zimoun <zimon.toutoune@gmail.com> writes:

> The package emacs-guix depends on the package guix because of reasons I
> am not sure to well understand to explain them.

In my experience there is no need to depend on Guix, we should be using
the current Guix.  This would fix most issues that users have been
having for years ;)

-- 
Pierre Neidhardt
https://ambrevar.xyz/

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Re: Fixing and maintenance of emacs-guix (guix.el)

[Ludovic Courtès]

Hi John,

John Soo <jsoo1@asu.edu> skribis:

> Ludovic Courtès <ludo@gnu.org> writes:
>
>> As I wrote in another message before reaching this one, my understanding
>> is that “we” now have to take over maintenance of Emacs-Guix.  As part
>> of that process, we can discuss what interfaces would be useful to
>> Emacs-Guix and arrange to keep them stable.
>>
>> I think we can do more if the two are developed hand in hand.  Let’s see
>> what we can achieve!
>
> Exciting!
>
> What do we do next?

To me the top priority would be to fix the ‘emacs-guix’ package in Guix,
either by adding a patch, grabbing a Git snapshot, or using an older
Geiser version.

Tagging an Emacs-Guix release would also be an option, once you’ve
clarified with Alex Kost and everyone involved that it’s OK for you to
do so.

I’ve requested the creation of a Git repo at Savannah.  Again, if and
once everyone involved is OK with the move, you can move the repo
there.  In the meantime you can obviously use a copy hosted elsewhere.

And then, you’ll probably have to recruit among the fearless and
creative Emacs hackers lurking here.  :-)

Ludo’.