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From: "Ludovic Courtès" <ludo@gnu.org>
To: Efraim Flashner <efraim@flashner.co.il>
Cc: Leo Prikler <leo.prikler@student.tugraz.at>,
	48924@debbugs.gnu.org, Tony O <me@fron.io>
Subject: [bug#48924] Add systemd
Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2021 11:36:14 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87sg1m2jjl.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YMW0R8aZi0s0RXme@3900XT> (Efraim Flashner's message of "Sun, 13 Jun 2021 10:31:19 +0300")

Hi!

Efraim Flashner <efraim@flashner.co.il> skribis:

> On Fri, Jun 11, 2021 at 07:11:18PM +0200, Leo Prikler wrote:

[...]

>> I'm definitely leaning towards not including it as-is/perhaps having it
>> in an external channel as well, but I don't think "high maintenance"
>> should generally be a deterrent against a functioning package (or
>> rather the only reason to keep a package from being included).

[...]

> I'd also argue that some of the bioinformatics packages are high
> maintenance and no one likes having to update them.

I agree with the two of you.  What I’m saying is that if in addition of
having a high maintenance cost, it’s pretty much unusable, then that’s
not good.

> One thing that I've noticed with elogind is that it doesn't interact
> will with systemd-logind on other machines. Any loginctl command
> normally fails because the version we have looks in /var/lib/elogind and
> systemd uses /var/lib/systemd.

Oh you’re saying that someone on a foreign distro might be interested in
running ‘systemctl’ from Guix’ ‘systemd’ package?  That sounds like a
bit far-fetched to me, dunno.

> It would also be useful to figure out how to run user level systemd
> services, likely using systemd itself, for those who are interested in
> doing so.
>
> I've heard that systemd is modular, in that at compile time it's
> possible to choose which modules to build. Perhaps we can build a subset
> which are actually useful for us?

Good question, no idea.

Thanks,
Ludo’.




  reply	other threads:[~2021-06-13  9:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-06-08 16:19 [bug#48924] Add systemd Tony O
2021-06-09 17:42 ` Ludovic Courtès
2021-06-09 18:08   ` Tony O
2021-06-09 20:25     ` Ludovic Courtès
2021-06-09 20:31       ` Tony O
2021-06-09 22:33         ` Leo Prikler
2021-06-11 16:39           ` Ludovic Courtès
2021-06-11 17:11             ` Leo Prikler
2021-06-13  7:31               ` Efraim Flashner
2021-06-13  9:36                 ` Ludovic Courtès [this message]
2021-06-13 12:19                   ` Efraim Flashner
2021-06-13 18:14                   ` Leo Famulari
2021-06-13 18:54                     ` Tony O
2021-06-13 19:00                       ` Leo Prikler
2021-06-13 19:56                         ` Tony O
2021-06-13 21:44                           ` Leo Prikler
2021-06-13 22:35                             ` Leo Famulari
2021-06-14 12:30                               ` Ludovic Courtès
2021-06-14 15:25                                 ` Leo Famulari
2021-06-15  9:38                                   ` Ludovic Courtès
2021-06-15 13:40                                     ` Leo Famulari
2021-06-15  6:35                                 ` Efraim Flashner
2021-06-15  9:29                                   ` Ludovic Courtès

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