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I submit that=20 > this is > actually a tooling and organizational issue, and not an=20 > intrinsic > issue to be solved. Bugs may still be valid; patches may still=20 > have > valuable bones to modify. > > I think the real issue is that as a backlog grows, the tools=20 > we're used to using cannot answer the questions we want to ask:=20 > what is most relevant to me or the project right now? > > To me, this sounds like a search and display problem. I agree with your analysis. And with your earlier comments about=20 the vagueness of what review means and how it can lead to a=20 failure to communicate. At least on the side of presenting submitted issues I=E2=80=99m sure we=20 can do better. One attempt in the past was to automatically bring=20 up =E2=80=9Cforgotten=E2=80=9D issues to the fore; Thiago=E2=80=99s idea to= allow people=20 to subscribe to certain *kinds* of issues when they are reported=20 is also good. I would be happy if people used this opportunity to change mumi=20 (the tool behind issues.guix.gnu.org) to present the backlog in=20 more helpful ways. Here=E2=80=99s the code for reference:=20 https://git.elephly.net/gitweb.cgi?p=3Dsoftware/mumi.git --=20 Ricardo