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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1683718333; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=jHB0D8UFhINJR6ymgsemokuOiQVAn1eCa81qRmkC/JQSfgaQylnGZMe1B3voASMHctzfYY KFNiKcFGHcqe8DQq6JUzs13lOaHZnD46EmjEJULs5nLLflrEEdNGg7b9+OudxPeH8wMUyJ 6rC7ugnJPED1WEBn1sG+nxPUGRovuNDTbHHgziHcFG1DFcq6gE3pJHRhVdq7NswJMgmFqx 46D/yOG6LhFTt5mP8fbSHmZ8EE7z3e5BaOy3O+o+8PePeaqIk1zroIbOP09yq5benzpR4H 67q+z5fGQWcSYO3ithC4ibKnX4B7qEdGpzy4v2MtEO8BhjZMSIVlRM4bwtSM3Q== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1683718333; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post; bh=CemszF3F+lUnM7Gpglnok3rL/jB61x8cDQTNf9ybNbk=; b=ry5kajSwl8sc3DN1ob18c7bQvY4VLAYxoHyM8tUBnwEBnA0qEqwIQ0vxgtmlM3+svN/bXn Rthpgy8RQdYcy/ZbINCcK5Fh594KgBTck4MsshxpPey2BZcx+3M5dQQ+mZJ+9UcRayukO4 KX1gKBjq0nJvPMgJtK8K+fpMrtcoqmydJ15w5j2Pf23+isumAoBqm38VleWOO9iM/rnnN1 G/vHPd1F6YdghtljwCZdK5XabM4Bv7RdqhizVQ0Ynxevnxs/ivYyTMv7gy/sks/vm8JVYl I4ElKXINIA5M4KnBPZ06G5jyA1plvidWUvAnAw5UtzJXup823wKvW3bNI+mGwg== X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -2.51 X-Spam-Score: -2.51 X-Migadu-Queue-Id: BE32F2DBFB X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-TUID: hph8ThiB6f/9 --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Andreas Enge writes: > Am Mon, May 08, 2023 at 10:15:56AM -0700 schrieb Felix Lechner: >> How about requiring prior to merging a feature branch that substitutes >> exist for all changed derivations? It would prevent build failures and >> preempt local builds, and thereby improve the experience for average >> users. > > Taken absolutely, that sounds a bit excessive; but the idea is of course > there, the branch should be built out as much as possible. > > It is probably unavoidable that some things stop working going forward, > and I wonder how realistic it is to iron out all problems before a merge. I think the thing next to aim for is at least to be informed about the effects of any changes. Knowning the x package breaks on y architecture and deciding to merge anyway is a lot better (and I think the end goal) than the current situation of not really knowing what the effects of non-trivial changes are. --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQKlBAEBCgCPFiEEPonu50WOcg2XVOCyXiijOwuE9XcFAmRbgKZfFIAAAAAALgAo aXNzdWVyLWZwckBub3RhdGlvbnMub3BlbnBncC5maWZ0aGhvcnNlbWFuLm5ldDNF ODlFRUU3NDU4RTcyMEQ5NzU0RTBCMjVFMjhBMzNCMEI4NEY1NzcRHG1haWxAY2Jh aW5lcy5uZXQACgkQXiijOwuE9Xewsg//V52wF9X/4GnG/audrAvLDq5t1BJ1QK28 psJ3V5aXUmOHSpVcXcreH6PobQNKMe+9oWANDVfZcurjMb9MerKlgFWhiyDMhOki jAQm7ynr3N3HJHY15Gat42FlyMWDIs2EIg/PelSvykTF2S9YH1rAnclpMnLgeNHn bQxuQSww2F6TWt30K5ziGSCmDXEGxWuyPxNaQqdmZwEY4GLOXpr2F0/x3IYUskIG w7v5pbvsme6r865Pf0K5Cdetsr1VhWzIQRKlpqAjGUu3RtRTXbOXXIKpGHMZujC7 wRvk0R5CcJz/djidPHgu8HW6oTSq7046NklBp0FmeKTGIlHfkVvw8gem99qwkXTp p6yq1ffN6BvtE4D6G1Y0BEQV99yqdpOcn9ZI/rBpKCf2H16YDLex/Fxzx/8oxz0H 9m1v4Ujn+haoI8Kq2KuoEUx1KKdM338UsK5AB17lzBaLvsGIo4IKxbkF2e3zzGos xS4STEUFgEGX3/sV5xYjjPcOYdeuBoTE2pmL/b4KjYenG87+ZaEoYwlIoEfn6B0V fnhcnosCv8hooM3a+myPQfLXDK0PUuw/uX2zE2u7DV9ky3zRjSHK+cnkEqdTVZbe liVHaQCsqLaUowqFr8zuFClRMKdb7B6/NkIimkpypC1GhyYn/o17cOquj8bL4GCz KyTx6XXVblU= =11DG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--