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In-Reply-To: <87y1cr2xyj.fsf@lease-up.com> References: <87h6jfzf14.fsf@posteo.net> <87y1cr2xyj.fsf@lease-up.com> Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2024 17:50:33 +0000 Message-ID: <87sf2x2mmu.fsf@d2.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.67.36.65; envelope-from=plattfot@posteo.net; helo=mout01.posteo.de X-Spam_score_int: -43 X-Spam_score: -4.4 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H5=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-guix@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: help-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Scanner: mx10.migadu.com X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -6.40 X-Spam-Score: -6.40 X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 922F3685C7 X-TUID: /BpU0JYbp5HD Hi, Felix Lechner writes: > Hi, > > On Sun, Jan 14 2024, Fredrik Salomonsson wrote: > >> My question what is the best practice for this? > > Guix Home is somewhat new. Not everyone uses it. There is some work to > be done somewhere, as you already know. > > Any functional package manager will require you to specify a prior > derivation in some form, with a closure over the prerequisites. I don't > think Guix has such functionality, but folks with more experience should > please speak up. > > A more practical way to mitigate your issuesn would be to improve the > code quality in the development HEAD. For example, we could accept > commits only when they do not break anything. Technically, a solution > might be around the corner, but there is considerable disagreement in > the project whether such a strict standard should be applied. It would > most likely lead to countless rebuilds and unacceptable delays. Yeah, I can see benefits going stricter but also keep it as is. > > Personally, I went for a simple solution with immediate benefits: I keep > a branch that builds everything I need and advance it only every two > months or so. I called it 'prebuilt.' You can find it as here: > > https://codeberg.org/lechner/guix/src/branch/prebuilt > > I know that's not what you wanted to hear, but it's all I can offer at > this time. That is fine, thank you for your input. Interesting idea to keep a branch of what you need. Do you apply patches etc if you encounter a broken package when you advance your branch? Or how do you deal with cases when they happen? -- s/Fred[re]+i[ck]+/Fredrik/g