packaging: what to do about these requiring systemd?

packaging: what to do about these requiring systemd?

[Andy Tai]

Some packages require systemd; some may provide configure stage
options to disable systemd support which can be supplied by the
package definitions in Guix.  But for these that do not make systemd
support configurable, what is the general approach to make such
packages available in GNU Guix?

Re: packaging: what to do about these requiring systemd?

[Ricardo Wurmus]

Andy Tai <atai@atai.org> writes:

> Some packages require systemd;

Some of these packages are perfectly happy with elogind.  Others only
check to decide what files to install (systemd unit files or those for
another init system).

-- 
Ricardo

Re: packaging: what to do about these requiring systemd?

[Andy Tai]

There are now cases of packages linking to Systemd, not just checking
for installing init scripts.
should these be considered bugs of such packages (and we shall ask the
package authors to make systemd optional)?

On Mon, Jul 8, 2024 at 4:45 AM Ricardo Wurmus <rekado@elephly.net> wrote:
>
> Andy Tai <atai@atai.org> writes:
>
> > Some packages require systemd;
>
> Some of these packages are perfectly happy with elogind.  Others only
> check to decide what files to install (systemd unit files or those for
> another init system).
>
> --
> Ricardo



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Re: packaging: what to do about these requiring systemd?

[Jakob Kirsch]

On Sun, Jul 07, 2024 at 05:07:01PM -0700, Andy Tai wrote:
> Some packages require systemd; some may provide configure stage
> options to disable systemd support which can be supplied by the
> package definitions in Guix.  But for these that do not make systemd
> support configurable, what is the general approach to make such
> packages available in GNU Guix?
>

You could look at how Gentoo fixes this since it has an OpenRC profile that masks systemd.

Re: packaging: what to do about these requiring systemd?

[Maxim Cournoyer]

Jakob Kirsch <jakob.kirsch@web.de> writes:

> On Sun, Jul 07, 2024 at 05:07:01PM -0700, Andy Tai wrote:
>> Some packages require systemd; some may provide configure stage
>> options to disable systemd support which can be supplied by the
>> package definitions in Guix.  But for these that do not make systemd
>> support configurable, what is the general approach to make such
>> packages available in GNU Guix?
>>
>
> You could look at how Gentoo fixes this since it has an OpenRC profile that masks systemd.

Also, the elogind package provides a few systemd compatible interfaces
or stubs that are often sufficient to build the package with it instead
of systemd.

-- 
Thanks,
Maxim