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Subject: Re: statedir locations
Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2014 10:49:08 +0100
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Mark H Weaver <mhw@netris.org> skribis:

> ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic Court=C3=A8s) writes:
>
>> Mark H Weaver <mhw@netris.org> skribis:
>>
>>> ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic Court=C3=A8s) writes:
>>>
>>>> John Darrington <john@darrington.wattle.id.au> skribis:
>>>>
>>>>> It has come to my attention that guix packages (at least those with g=
nu build system)
>>>>> default their statedirs to directories under /nix/store/.  Recall tha=
t the statedirs (ie:=20
>>>>> sharedstatedir localstatedir and runstatedir) are for installing data=
 files *which the programs
>>>>> modify while they run* [1].   Obviously a program cannot modify anyth=
ing under /nix/store
>>>>> I think we need to update the default configure flags.
>>>>
>>>> Yes.  We actually have a number of local modifications:
>>>>
>>>>   $ grep -e --localstatedir gnu/packages/*.scm | wc -l
>>>>   5
>>>>
>>>> I think we should change gnu-build-system.scm to pass
>>>> --localstatedir=3D/var, unless =E2=80=98configure-flags=E2=80=99 speci=
fy another setting.
>>>>
>>>> I=E2=80=99ll do that in =E2=80=98core-updates=E2=80=99.
>>>
>>> What about 'sharestatedir' and 'runstatedir'?
>>
>> =E2=80=98runstatedir=E2=80=99 is in the not-yet-released Autoconf, but o=
therwise, yeah,
>> they all deserve the same treatment.
>
> So there's a problem.  Lots of builds are now failing, because "make
> install" often tries to create /var or /com and does not have sufficient
> permissions to do so.

Indeed (notice that I=E2=80=99m reading mail in the wrong order.)

Ludo=E2=80=99.