From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Giovanni Biscuolo <g@xelera.eu> Subject: Re: Need help porting eDuke32 Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2019 19:59:32 +0100 Message-ID: <87r2bv4ru3.fsf@roquette.mug.biscuolo.net> References: <4082254.2VInIakpOu@aleksandar-ixtreme-m5740> <871s40jdk4.fsf@ambrevar.xyz> <87wolsht8w.fsf@ambrevar.xyz> <11782299.o45zcXmkTc@aleksandar-ixtreme-m5740> <87zhqjonnl.fsf@ambrevar.xyz> <20190225175132.GA25374@jurong> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Return-path: <help-guix-bounces+gcggh-help-guix=m.gmane.org@gnu.org> Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:36504) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <g@xelera.eu>) id 1gyLU2-0000q9-5O for help-guix@gnu.org; Mon, 25 Feb 2019 14:00:16 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <g@xelera.eu>) id 1gyLU1-0004Ge-5f for help-guix@gnu.org; Mon, 25 Feb 2019 14:00:10 -0500 Received: from ns13.heimat.it ([46.4.214.66]:52604) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <g@xelera.eu>) id 1gyLU0-00049C-RX for help-guix@gnu.org; Mon, 25 Feb 2019 14:00:09 -0500 In-Reply-To: <20190225175132.GA25374@jurong> List-Id: <help-guix.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/options/help-guix>, <mailto:help-guix-request@gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/help-guix/> List-Post: <mailto:help-guix@gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:help-guix-request@gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/help-guix>, <mailto:help-guix-request@gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: help-guix-bounces+gcggh-help-guix=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: "Help-Guix" <help-guix-bounces+gcggh-help-guix=m.gmane.org@gnu.org> To: Andreas Enge <andreas@enge.fr>, Pierre Neidhardt <mail@ambrevar.xyz> Cc: help-guix@gnu.org, HiPhish <hiphish@posteo.de> --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Pierre and Andreas, Andreas Enge <andreas@enge.fr> writes: > On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 05:09:34PM +0100, Pierre Neidhardt wrote: >> The project uses a custom license: http://eduke32.com/buildlic.txt. >> What do you people think? > > I think the license is non-free: > > [2] Any derivative works based on my Build source may be distributed ONLY > through the INTERNET. > [3] Distribution of any derivative works MUST be done completely FREE of > charge - no commercial exploitation whatsoever. also: =2D-8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- [5] The use of the Build Engine for commercial purposes will require an appropriate license arrangement with me. Contact information is on my web site. =2D-8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- for sure that license is non-free, sorry! :-( ...but wait! http://eduke32.com/ is **pure confusion** about the licensing information about that piece of software (could someone please tell them?!?): =2D-8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- EDuke32 is open source software that is completely free to use for all non-commercial purposes. =2D-8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- ehrm: non-commercial open source what?!?!? and a few sentences after: =2D-8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- EDuke32 is licensed under the GNU GPL and the BUILD license. =2D-8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- ...mumble mumble: GNU GPL version? and the very last sentence in homepage tells us: =2D-8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- BUILD engine technology originally created by Ken Silverman, non-GPL rendering and engine technology used in EDuke32 available under BUILDLIC. =2D-8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- so "BUILD engine" is non-free but EDuke32 is GNU GPL v? licensed? if so: can you build EDuke32 without "BUILD engine"? are you willing to make a check for every piece of code (or folder) to see if it is licensed as GNU GPL and what version? sorry but it seems a little hard task to liberate that piece of software :-S is it worth an unconfused-EDuke32 meta-fork ala ungoogled-chromium? :-) /me *very* sad to see such confusion... in 2019 Giovanni =2D-=20 Giovanni Biscuolo Xelera IT Infrastructures --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCgAdFiEERcxjuFJYydVfNLI5030Op87MORIFAlx0OxUACgkQ030Op87M ORL7/BAAsMFDV7x3CoqDIaoaGo9NfrqH3jJVxADZSiQpwlWt2LjAykrf7A2SAcYc uu+euzKX7hyQEfzwjZLqt5M1PI0RS2Hj3jkqoI/6xpW6H+jCTWWsZEco03XElajz y7UK644/NsQp1jSEvGVOPtXYCgMuswKw+V9WmwpIWgCsKgwXRmQHl1OEUBDRqL5f Qqg/W2lFtQuZt2DTGCpBRsT5H7bR6/pMXAifxvLGVz/QVzT80BwPDs4jvzQLBmmU fp+Ya+JrqjKqOBSc9T1yhlVD8j8qGMYtL3UEfbioxrkmUZ0gJuLaqWrNCEWHYXN3 L5SPAUee2Q9nENfAxAxMRjys6LcDFm9TAwANbVKovBPKCDiisw45JoXvqgtKzQAi H/leyvMVs2reAp14AL8OGbDlPOiJatQJOa+2RlYx6spD3phl+l+nQptAQm++eunN TNz0LKmkKiPyBUhmKhJKIdSLz5EYgc6WaYan8pqEpKqsHeqDPaSQugnjTMfTFrTS V4lO0bmzWO+1XlMn07JMS+Y6zQy4iCr28Y5k/qbiMUM1irXrGIkAYmUpUdy9HPNw sUP4VkTiUrzQvLYHXexXx2xvaK8VJFJeAVXzcc3WeBGemC+QFiOs83gXowbLKluM eejlNqIziUfcD4gZ8FP0pBbw+r5IsrWNl6nyxND7B2sJscI7yto= =m2sw -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--