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From: Giovanni Biscuolo <g@xelera.eu>
To: Andreas Enge <andreas@enge.fr>, Pierre Neidhardt <mail@ambrevar.xyz>
Cc: help-guix@gnu.org, HiPhish <hiphish@posteo.de>
Subject: Re: Need help porting eDuke32
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2019 19:59:32 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87r2bv4ru3.fsf@roquette.mug.biscuolo.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190225175132.GA25374@jurong>

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Hi Pierre and Andreas,

Andreas Enge <andreas@enge.fr> writes:

> On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 05:09:34PM +0100, Pierre Neidhardt wrote:
>> The project uses a custom license: http://eduke32.com/buildlic.txt.
>> What do you people think?
>
> I think the license is non-free:
>
> [2] Any derivative works based on my Build source may be distributed ONLY
>        through the INTERNET.
> [3] Distribution of any derivative works MUST be done completely FREE of
>        charge - no commercial exploitation whatsoever.

also:

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
[5] The use of the Build Engine for commercial purposes will require an
appropriate license arrangement with me. Contact information is on my
web site.
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

for sure that license is non-free, sorry! :-(

...but wait!

http://eduke32.com/ is **pure confusion** about the licensing
information about that piece of software (could someone please tell
them?!?):

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
EDuke32 is open source software that is completely free to use for all
non-commercial purposes.
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

ehrm: non-commercial open source what?!?!?

and a few sentences after:

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
EDuke32 is licensed under the GNU GPL and the BUILD license.
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

...mumble mumble: GNU GPL version?

and the very last sentence in homepage tells us:

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
BUILD engine technology originally created by Ken Silverman, non-GPL
rendering and engine technology used in EDuke32 available under
BUILDLIC.
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

so "BUILD engine" is non-free but EDuke32 is GNU GPL v? licensed?

if so: can you build EDuke32 without "BUILD engine"?

are you willing to make a check for every piece of code (or folder) to
see if it is licensed as GNU GPL and what version?

sorry but it seems a little hard task to liberate that piece of software
:-S

is it worth an unconfused-EDuke32 meta-fork ala ungoogled-chromium? :-)

/me *very* sad to see such confusion... in 2019
Giovanni

-- 
Giovanni Biscuolo

Xelera IT Infrastructures

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  reply	other threads:[~2019-02-25 19:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-02-17  8:20 Need help porting eDuke32 HiPhish
2019-02-17 15:33 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2019-02-17 16:21   ` HiPhish
2019-02-21 19:19     ` Pierre Neidhardt
2019-02-21 19:22       ` Pierre Neidhardt
2019-02-21 19:27         ` Pierre Neidhardt
2019-02-21 20:27       ` HiPhish
2019-02-22 10:36         ` Pierre Neidhardt
2019-02-22 10:57           ` Pierre Neidhardt
2019-02-22 13:01             ` Pierre Neidhardt
2019-02-24 23:04               ` HiPhish
2019-02-25 16:09                 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2019-02-25 17:51                   ` Andreas Enge
2019-02-25 18:59                     ` Giovanni Biscuolo [this message]
2019-02-26  9:57                       ` Tobias Geerinckx-Rice
2019-02-26 10:00                         ` Pierre Neidhardt
2019-02-26 11:18                         ` HiPhish
2019-02-26 14:25                           ` Ricardo Wurmus
2019-02-26 15:41                           ` Jack Hill
2019-02-26 20:50                             ` swedebugia
2019-02-24 23:00             ` HiPhish
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2019-02-16  9:49 HiPhish
2019-02-16 10:30 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2019-02-16 12:15 ` nee
2019-02-16 12:20   ` Pierre Neidhardt
2019-02-16 16:45 ` Marius Bakke

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