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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1672828041; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=Hzb/b8DSAVtwl63gKnV/g2MBfTI8dkwbc2t36glNFlQ=; b=T9b/6MZ/FuPs0OSkrm0mlfD+uCSU5PHVCg2EmkwWHSYuK9xifZHLOvKMkMfQ7yJowTY+yH drfqyVPT5Y3zcBRLj1pbUculVupg6u+Z1Hs/nluNcRN3ABwH+jdoGgkUMky+3Vk9O+ZBbn dSTPU8H24sU2o9gEc/q3lPQaLh4nVBDvlfeb+bQrSWQsc3yM8Iy255Gtp+s5AexB8EXbey IobergNfPjECmjpuiQnsyCrn18WDAE6kWK/zxA7VoWJb+uGP4MIShnLL3WTLur3QFo0+83 8a3cNk/uNJXTmMNJoWK8yV9bamQRbggNRZdWxQm3O0c8D8fH1WBf3skGRkxeHQ== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gnu.org header.s=fencepost-gnu-org header.b=EQbx3hjx; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org"; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gnu.org ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1672828041; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=Yn9kubspUrr3psMIvJcKp29r8M3NrlgJmdDtTSgPYF5yHWB5Q4IF3fIY935iQQ5bV0nOYZ MP27aOobUI3SUGqOWvgwONL0qyPHIWU17BpxcfZ0LiiIq/vIxoC9UOz59W72z+VtwdgICI XISCiT9p+i+rWdYVe2GWIK5hyXuhekg/vNNah1g2KT0qUkt+j6CwEWHtl10sfTRlLo4F/b nHH/Yu9c+zZ1BkTw4RRJNkzTepKL6U311MURZoYalEVc62yUtOR+Ry5CBuC5u/2JHK5bBm o7slepItwqKaLvCvkNw1q4vn48sTEs2I3npmqMznfqg+R/jRfUlDdNojUlGspA== X-Spam-Score: -7.50 X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 20BFA23379 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gnu.org header.s=fencepost-gnu-org header.b=EQbx3hjx; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org"; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gnu.org X-Migadu-Scanner: scn1.migadu.com X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -7.50 X-TUID: NuxFRIQOkATW Nguy=E1=BB=85n Gia Phong skribis: > On 2023-01-04 at 08:11+01:00, Reza Housseini wrote: >> What about size? Does [propagating all build inputs] >> not bloat up profile sizes? > > I'm new to Guix, but aren't both build inputs > and propagated build inputs required at run time? > IIUC the only difference is that the propagated ones' env > is, ehm, propagated all the way up instead of just > to the direct dependee. No, inputs are not necessarily available at run time. An input is kept at run time (as a =E2=80=9Creference=E2=80=9D) if and only if guix-daemon f= inds a reference to it in the build product. Ludo=E2=80=99.