From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Mark H Weaver Subject: Re: Tor Browser Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2016 16:01:43 -0400 Message-ID: <87popgv1eg.fsf@netris.org> References: <20160623104107.GA2505@shadowwalker> <20160623132347.GA9193@shadowwalker> <87a8ia7pq4.fsf@gnu.org> <20160624134357.GA30727@shadowwalker> <87por637vi.fsf_-_@gnu.org> <20160624174913.GA19633@shadowwalker> <87r3bkmfja.fsf@gnu.org> <87bn2kxirt.fsf@we.make.ritual.n0.is> <87mvm355r3.fsf@gnu.org> <87fuqjmj7z.fsf@we.make.ritual.n0.is> <87shuisfst.fsf@gmail.com> <87mvkqxi7x.fsf@we.make.ritual.n0.is> <87twevbsbu.fsf@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:52680) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bXZhR-0005i5-U6 for guix-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 10 Aug 2016 16:02:03 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bXZhN-0000Pg-Sm for guix-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 10 Aug 2016 16:02:01 -0400 Received: from world.peace.net ([50.252.239.5]:42440) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bXZhN-0000Pa-P6 for guix-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 10 Aug 2016 16:01:57 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87twevbsbu.fsf@gmail.com> (Alex Vong's message of "Mon, 08 Aug 2016 16:03:33 +0800") List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+gcggd-guix-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" To: Alex Vong Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org Alex Vong writes: > ng0 writes: > >> Alex Vong writes: >> >>> Finally, I agree that icecat could switch to tor browser as its upstream. >> >> Maybe you want to help me out with writing the email / post to >> torproject: >> https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guix-devel/2016-08/msg00326.html >> >> On second note, maybe this is message should be addressed to both >> torproject and icecat developer(s). What do you think? I have no fixed >> plan in mind for this. >> > Hmm, maybe I will give my (rough) idea here. In my opinion, icecat has 2 > important features, librejs (gpl3+) and the lack of non-free addons > suggestion. We would also need to remove Firefox support for DRM (e.g. EME), avoid steering users to non-free media codecs, and maybe some other things to meet the requirements of the GNU FSDG. I suspect that these changes are substantial enough that we'll need to change the branding, and avoid using the Firefox trademark, but I'm not sure. > For librejs, TBB already have noscripts, although they serve different > purposes (librejs intends to block non-free js only), I doubt devs would > want to include 2 js blocker addons. But I think html5 everyhere will be > a good addon for TBB since most html5 player requires js. Currently, > enabling noscript breaks most video-playing sites. > > For the lack of non-free addons suggestion, TBB recommends not to > install addon, but the addon page is still there, which suggest non-free > addons. I don't really know what should we do here. The IceCat project maintains a page of free addons. I guess we should use that. I agree that the best outcome would be for IceCat to switch to Tor Browser as its upstream, or at least to borrow heavily from their patch set. Thanks, Mark