From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Christopher Allan Webber Subject: Re: Guix on macOS Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2017 10:58:12 -0500 Message-ID: <87po9rnip7.fsf@dustycloud.org> References: <87bmldavre.fsf@gmail.com> <87efq8pwrf.fsf@gnu.org> <8760bkgigb.fsf@elephly.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:34512) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1e32Lp-0000xd-1Z for guix-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 13 Oct 2017 11:58:17 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1e32Lm-0003jq-1K for guix-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 13 Oct 2017 11:58:17 -0400 In-reply-to: <8760bkgigb.fsf@elephly.net> List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+gcggd-guix-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" To: Ricardo Wurmus Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org Ricardo Wurmus writes: > Christopher wrote this: > >> Is there a way to maybe run Guix in some sort of namespaced or some >> variant of "virtualized" or "contained" way that we could recommend fo= r >> OSX users, without having to bend over backwards to accomodate a >> different libc and etc? > > In order to use the Hypervisor framework that macOS 10.10 and higher > provide we would need to use Xcode, so we couldn=E2=80=99t even build a= tool > like that without relying on proprietary software. But we don=E2=80=99= t have to > build a tool like that, because it already exists in the form of virtua= l > machine applications (or even Docker for Mac). > > The best we could do on macOS is to run applications in a GNU virtual > machine and try hard to make them blend in. That=E2=80=99s not really > appealing, neither technically nor practically, in my opinion. I think someone told me this is exactly how Docker does it, or used to do it, for quite some time. So we'd hardly be alone... :)