From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Ricardo Wurmus Subject: Re: website: say what Guix is at the very top Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2018 23:20:17 +0100 Message-ID: <87po5ss3xa.fsf@elephly.net> References: <863732wf9z.fsf@gmail.com> <87efmm70re.fsf@elephly.net> <87r2qm3rfv.fsf@gnu.org> <87r2qj1d6o.fsf@elephly.net> <87a7x31gm6.fsf@gnu.org> <86372sdxz0.fsf@gmail.com> <87h8r71dp9.fsf@gnu.org> <867es3cgeq.fsf@gmail.com> <87bmhet0hc.fsf@elephly.net> <86zi4xb8tk.fsf@gmail.com> <20180129073718.GA32294@thebird.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:34013) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1egHnO-00039i-K6 for guix-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 29 Jan 2018 17:20:59 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1egHnL-0002Rz-1R for guix-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 29 Jan 2018 17:20:58 -0500 Received: from sender-of-o51.zoho.com ([135.84.80.216]:21048) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1egHnK-0002Qe-OY for guix-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 29 Jan 2018 17:20:54 -0500 In-reply-to: List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+gcggd-guix-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" To: "Cook, Malcolm" Cc: "guix-devel@gnu.org" , "myglc2@gmail.com" , sirgazil Hi Malcolm, > I entirely agree that with the right educational materials you are > going to see have the possibility of appealing to other > groups/cultures/biases. Yes, I think that does make sense. > Having a section for each of the 2**3 type of user might be the > perfect compromise. > > Perhaps try to appeal to each audience not with "the first foo to bar" > language, but rather the language of use cases, such as: > > =09As an administrator of a general purpose HPC cluster, I can focus on > =09networking optimizations ("the last mile", I/O, CUDA, performance, > =09permissions, interesting massively parallel etc) rather than keeping > =09up-to-date with every last scientific application. > > =09Guix's garbage collection capabilities remove the guess-work from > =09deleting "old" versions of libraries from my installation! > > =09As an system administrator, solving the dependency hell of end-user > =09applications should not be my problem! Guix puts this problem where > =09it belongs - in the hand of application specialists. > > =09As an sysadmin administrator, with guix I am removed from the > =09politics of when to update an application! > > =09Documenting what applications are installed used to be a separate > =09problem from that of installing them. With GUIX, performing the > =09installation makes them appear in my software catalog. No more > =09worries about inconsistencies! (It=E2=80=99s =E2=80=9CGuix=E2=80=9D, not =E2=80=9CGUIX=E2=80=9D. People a= t work also always write =E2=80=9CGUIX=E2=80=9D and I can=E2=80=99t figure out why=E2=80=A6 Maybe we should come up with a backr= onym to make it a valid alternative spelling :)) > =09As a user of advanced scientific applications, I am now in a position = to deploy which applications I need as I see fit, and have the upstream com= munity support to share the tooling. > > =09As a bioinformatics developer, the same tools I use to install applica= tion environments can be used to deploy advanced workflows with the same le= vel of confidence. > > Does this strike a sweet spot? I like these testimonial style descriptions, and I think it makes sense to add separate sections for different archetypical users. (We already have a related section entitled =E2=80=9CGuixSD and GNU Guix in your field= =E2=80=9D, which I found intriguing, but it only links to blog posts with certain tags.) However, I think that this is tangential to the question of whether to move the GuixSD description and intro to a separate page. If we added those sections they=E2=80=99d be only about Guix, not about GuixSD, no? -- Ricardo GPG: BCA6 89B6 3655 3801 C3C6 2150 197A 5888 235F ACAC https://elephly.net