From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp0 ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms11 with LMTPS id CPeSLPR7zV6sGAAA0tVLHw (envelope-from ) for ; Tue, 26 May 2020 20:28:36 +0000 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp0 with LMTPS id eGRzKPR7zV5GOwAA1q6Kng (envelope-from ) for ; Tue, 26 May 2020 20:28:36 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 152B49404C5 for ; Tue, 26 May 2020 20:28:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([::1]:55712 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jdgBd-0004Z2-P4 for larch@yhetil.org; Tue, 26 May 2020 16:28:33 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:40222) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jdgAG-0003Zx-Nj for help-guix@gnu.org; Tue, 26 May 2020 16:27:09 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:51635) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jdgAF-0000oU-Hf; Tue, 26 May 2020 16:27:07 -0400 Received: from [2a01:e0a:1d:7270:af76:b9b:ca24:c465] (port=56670 helo=ribbon) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1jdgAD-0005ms-1n; Tue, 26 May 2020 16:27:05 -0400 From: =?utf-8?Q?Ludovic_Court=C3=A8s?= To: Christopher Lemmer Webber Subject: Re: Vanilla Firefox recipe? References: <87v9l2thi5.fsf@dustycloud.org> <87y2pyfc3d.fsf@yamatai> <20200512192319.GA918@E5400> <9077d3bf-1f83-6e08-341d-7f7be5387f42@hyperbola.info> <87367nydku.fsf@dustycloud.org> X-URL: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ X-Revolutionary-Date: 8 Prairial an 228 de la =?utf-8?Q?R=C3=A9volution?= X-PGP-Key-ID: 0x090B11993D9AEBB5 X-PGP-Key: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ludovic.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: 3CE4 6455 8A84 FDC6 9DB4 0CFB 090B 1199 3D9A EBB5 X-OS: x86_64-pc-linux-gnu Date: Tue, 26 May 2020 22:27:02 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87367nydku.fsf@dustycloud.org> (Christopher Lemmer Webber's message of "Mon, 25 May 2020 16:17:05 -0400") Message-ID: <87pnaqo31l.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.3 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: help-guix@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: help-guix@gnu.org Errors-To: help-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Help-Guix" X-Scanner: scn0 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of help-guix-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=help-guix-bounces@gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -0.01 X-TUID: FWaikVQN6UOk Hello! Adonay is right that the project=E2=80=99s channels are not the place to di= scuss third-party channels and distribution methods, especially channels and tools that provide non-FSDG-compliant software. As for Firefox, it pops up every now and then, but there seems to be a lasting misunderstanding. Firefox, as is, will not go into Guix because it does not comply with several items of the FSDG, which the project is committed to following (for example, by linking to Mozilla=E2=80=99s add-on catalog, which contains non-free software.) However, a version of Firefox stripped from the bits that make it non-FSDG-compliant would be welcome. This is essentially what IceCat is about, but IceCat is based on an LTS version (I think that=E2=80=99s what you meant by =E2=80=9Cold=E2=80=9D) an= d it enables various privacy-enhancing plugins by default. I think there were a few attempts to do that in the past, but they were not completed, so we=E2=80=99re having this discussion again. :-) It might be that the =E2=80=9Cclean up=E2=80=9D code we have for IceCat wou= ld work with few modifications on the latest Firefox. I hope this clarifies the situation! Until then, happy web browsing. :-) Ludo=E2=80=99.