From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp2 ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms11 with LMTPS id TOCLGBuL9V9GRgAA0tVLHw (envelope-from ) for ; Wed, 06 Jan 2021 10:04:11 +0000 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp2 with LMTPS id eB7TExuL9V+mLAAAB5/wlQ (envelope-from ) for ; Wed, 06 Jan 2021 10:04:11 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D0C71940416 for ; Wed, 6 Jan 2021 10:04:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([::1]:46196 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kx5fl-0007DI-QF for larch@yhetil.org; Wed, 06 Jan 2021 05:04:09 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:51588) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kx5fe-0007Cu-Tl for bug-guix@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Jan 2021 05:04:02 -0500 Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:60178) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kx5fe-0003eC-MQ for bug-guix@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Jan 2021 05:04:02 -0500 Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kx5fe-0004Jr-Fp for bug-guix@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Jan 2021 05:04:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#45571: Support stable uids and gids for all accounts Resent-From: Ludovic =?UTF-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?= Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-guix@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 06 Jan 2021 10:04:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 45571 X-GNU-PR-Package: guix X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Danny Milosavljevic Received: via spool by 45571-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B45571.160992739616545 (code B ref 45571); Wed, 06 Jan 2021 10:04:02 +0000 Received: (at 45571) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Jan 2021 10:03:16 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43491 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kx5eu-0004Il-Gt for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 06 Jan 2021 05:03:16 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:58316) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kx5et-0004IQ-0W for 45571@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 06 Jan 2021 05:03:15 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:57462) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kx5el-0003G0-K8; Wed, 06 Jan 2021 05:03:07 -0500 Received: from [2a01:e0a:1d:7270:af76:b9b:ca24:c465] (port=41416 helo=ribbon) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1kx5ek-0000qZ-P0; Wed, 06 Jan 2021 05:03:07 -0500 From: Ludovic =?UTF-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?= References: <20210101184838.21869359@scratchpost.org> <2f2fd3d66066b23f31f7db465aea65478ef81e87.camel@student.tugraz.at> <20210101212242.00252cac@scratchpost.org> <58174c197a7b42b29927c492d25e28c684d199ea.camel@student.tugraz.at> <20210102160415.30fcb7e8@scratchpost.org> X-URL: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ X-Revolutionary-Date: 17 =?UTF-8?Q?Niv=C3=B4se?= an 229 de la =?UTF-8?Q?R=C3=A9volution?= X-PGP-Key-ID: 0x090B11993D9AEBB5 X-PGP-Key: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ludovic.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: 3CE4 6455 8A84 FDC6 9DB4 0CFB 090B 1199 3D9A EBB5 X-OS: x86_64-pc-linux-gnu Date: Wed, 06 Jan 2021 11:03:04 +0100 In-Reply-To: <20210102160415.30fcb7e8@scratchpost.org> (Danny Milosavljevic's message of "Sat, 2 Jan 2021 16:04:15 +0100") Message-ID: <87pn2io013.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-guix@gnu.org List-Id: Bug reports for GNU Guix List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: 45571@debbugs.gnu.org, Leo Prikler Errors-To: bug-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "bug-Guix" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -2.84 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gnu.org; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of bug-guix-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=bug-guix-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: D0C71940416 X-Spam-Score: -2.84 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: Z1fZjk8XVjH6 Hi Danny, Danny Milosavljevic skribis: > It's easily possible to recreate /etc/passwd from scratch if the uids are > always specified in s and thus /etc/passwd would not need to > be persistent state anymore. Right now everything from /etc/passwd except > the uid and the comment is already specified in . > > So Guix can indeed simply do away with the persistent state of > /etc/passwd--that's why I suggested specifying the uids in the first plac= e. I don=E2=80=99t think it can: UID/GID allocation is stateful by nature beca= use you don=E2=80=99t want to reuse a recently-used ID right away. See the allocation strategy in (gnu build accounts). Ludo=E2=80=99.