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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1615736857; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=JB1T0azAdsw0mcz7tRYBCqGu5Pk9VQ1oh/+7jFy5hyc=; b=FDYD9/ZJu8oqLAbSbfxQQgRZOd0IBIbag1SlDQowN4pX0eoETpsq2AK7UwH5/Dsqdbfv/G YkQmoVv0MWwOU4/rZA+4FreNo1C1ByQN31hQq/I5587+CDSVAxOcpSFZZPAL8mwJhyeITE hdZC2rDyQRQh30kbvPpzrtjLgO1QtQ93tFXzaMg1Zee+OQQOgTe9yk/XECvhSZ+8osFK3X Y9GqpgaaZMRnN+gk1emGMPVzj6+734rd11459uwlKtoxzItEKNrN6CO/Uk2qVHwvljsG3W u6WV/TMoxpm4JMnsWD5fxEmfGODznNpkJ8iTC0QJXSoxdJeJwfyl8k5dfm6UIw== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1615736857; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=ZhPbChtcw5pBw6C1cBVy+BeZrBYgE5a+sxXIVHTPyFmfKQeexNOJvKdzV6oHMSuUZxURIi XWI+jE5Oxi0jl/GUM7SlvJEvg3KRK5JZYeUT4FeDR7Ho+J5Tg2tWh0fIT1gc+Sx+LwHJM8 SBX9+MgcXXj+X8vFXjRDN6WG+O/cyOpWcTn5FZWPnVgiN1hFeVJAdCswTwTtybcpOG/w0i J4G3MiGr1mzsYAR2cuW92iNjDCshm0iHhyQ20ovpZTWTLlgOqh/7ccCDUArm87pBbHVvS2 U2YGILlGFiX6sKGHTFDJY9BZPILy03EZF78tWf7o3rujqzAbKkFpK3iJ4kxwAg== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=dismail.de header.s=20190914 header.b=b0ncGNYJ; dmarc=pass (policy=reject) header.from=dismail.de; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -3.10 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=dismail.de header.s=20190914 header.b=b0ncGNYJ; dmarc=pass (policy=reject) header.from=dismail.de; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 92DD02238C X-Spam-Score: -3.10 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: VWT3JwmK998j Andrew Tropin writes: > Hi guix! > > There is an implementation of `guix home` subcommand, which behaves > similar to `guix system`, allowing declaratively manage applications and > their configurations, but for a particular user, not the whole OS: > https://git.sr.ht/~abcdw/rde/tree/master/item/gnu Thanks for sharing this! And it's on sourcehut! Very rock star of you! > > For now I personally manage just a few applications on my system and it > seems that everything works as expected, but I plan to migrate all the > "dotfiles" to it in nearest future. AFAIK, some people succesfully use > it on other GNU/Linux distributions. That's awesome! > > * Alternative solutions > In contrast to guix-home-manager, `guix home` doesn't introduce any too For those interested the guix-home-manager is here: https://framagit.org/tyreunom/guix-home-manager > innovative approaches (those ideas are cool, but in some use cases are > too radical), `guix home` uses the same extension mechanism [fn:1] as > guix system services and doesn't require to make HOME read-only. Thus, > it's possible to start using `guix home` gradually, along with other > tools and workflows (stow, guix package, chezmoi, yadm, etc). Honestly, this is why I haven't tried the guix-home-manager. I didn't want to make /home read only. That sounded hard to switch to. I'll have to give your guix home command a try! It sounds easy! > * Future steps > `guix home` still under active development, but already complete enough > for exloration and early adoption. There is no any documentation yet, > because things were changing often and probably will change one more > time during comming cleanup, however there were few video streams, > explaining internals of `guix home`: > mpv https://youtu.be/t3zRzQnarUI > mpv https://youtu.be/4lJaVzxO_Bs > mpv https://youtu.be/ZRQtCvo8MoM > > The question is: do we want and need at all `guix home` to be a part of > the guix? As for me, the tool seems like a natural addition to guix's > declarative configuration management approach and covers the missing > piece of user space software management and as I mentioned early > upstreaming will allow to make it better integrated with the rest of the > guix and easier to use for newcommers and casual users, but my > perception is obviously biased. I believe the goal is to eventually merge guix-home-manager (or something like it) into guix. (I'm more of a guix documentation guy, so perhaps a guix developer can better answer this). > -- > Best regards, > Andrew Tropin I'm going to remember that name. Andrew's going places! -- Joshua Branson (joshuaBPMan in #guix) Sent from Emacs and Gnus https://gnucode.me https://video.hardlimit.com/accounts/joshua_branson/video-channels https://propernaming.org "You can have whatever you want, as long as you help enough other people get what they want." - Zig Ziglar