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From: Josselin Poiret <dev@jpoiret.xyz>
To: Antonio Carlos Padoan Junior <acpadoanjr@yahoo.com.br>,
	guix-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: secure boot
Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2022 10:46:51 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87pmguugp0.fsf@jpoiret.xyz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87h727tazd.fsf@yahoo.com.br>

Hi Antonio,

Antonio Carlos Padoan Junior <acpadoanjr@yahoo.com.br> writes:

> As far as I understand, Guix doesn't provide means to automatically sign
> bootloaders and kernels in order to use UEFI secure boot after each system
> reconfigure (assuming a PKI is properly implemented).  Hence, using
> secure boot with Guix is currently not viable (am i correct?).

You're right, we don't really have any means to do that.  It would have
to be done outside of the store, again, so that the private key doesn't
leak into it.

> In this context, can I assume that the risk of not having secure boot is
> minimized by the fact that in each system reconfiguration, the early
> boot chain is overwritten is such a way that, if a malicious is
> introduced somehow, it will be also overwritten? Am I correct?

A reconfigure would overwrite the bootloader, and most likely create a
new system generation with bootloader configuration.

> In addition, how much more difficult it is to introduce such malicious
> code in a Guix system giving its functional approach and store system?
> (in comparison with others Linux distributions).

Nothing is stopping an attacker from overwriting your bootloader with
their own, which could load a kernel of their choosing.  They would need
to be able to boot off something though.  And once you're compromised
that way, I don't think you could consider running `guix system
reconfigure` an option.

Best,
-- 
Josselin Poiret


  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-08-21  8:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <87h727tazd.fsf.ref@yahoo.com.br>
2022-08-20 11:23 ` secure boot Antonio Carlos Padoan Junior
2022-08-20 12:18   ` Tobias Platen
2022-08-21  8:46   ` Josselin Poiret [this message]
2022-08-22 20:13     ` Antonio Carlos Padoan Junior
2022-08-23  7:42       ` Josselin Poiret
2022-08-23 18:32         ` Antonio Carlos Padoan Junior
2022-08-24  3:07     ` Philip McGrath
2022-08-24 17:24       ` Maxime Devos
     [not found] <mailman.77.1661011233.4812.guix-devel@gnu.org>
2022-08-20 19:11 ` kiasoc5

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