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I think we > ought to look into duplicate references being kept (glibc, gcc), but we > can't really work against packages including more inputs without > reducing their feature set =E2=80=93 in some cases we could try alternati= ves > like mozjs vs. duktape for polkit. mozjs is already using duktape by default on core-updates, so that particular one is solved. --=20 Thanks, Maxim