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[205.151.56.16]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id d15-20020a0ce44f000000b00623950fbe48sm3982364qvm.41.2023.07.14.06.59.05 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Fri, 14 Jul 2023 06:59:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Maxim Cournoyer References: <87leg7xner.fsf@gnu.org> <87zg4m1e9z.fsf@gmail.com> <0b7fa4b3ac2f957d633348ac6866027e3f98ec4a.camel@gmail.com> <87ilb1qqud.fsf_-_@gnu.org> <87ilaxyr96.fsf@gmail.com> <1ed59ed5581822e179f843ff118957c787fcfe7e.camel@gmail.com> <878rboxujs.fsf@gmail.com> <871qhf8nu7.fsf@gnu.org> <87v8emwrvi.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2023 09:59:05 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87v8emwrvi.fsf@gnu.org> ("Ludovic =?UTF-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?="'s message of "Fri, 14 Jul 2023 15:21:37 +0200") Message-ID: <87pm4uwq52.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: guix-patches@gnu.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-patches-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: guix-patches-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 1AA55403CA X-Migadu-Scanner: mx1.migadu.com X-Migadu-Spam-Score: 4.37 X-Spam-Score: 4.37 X-TUID: isIRG8iitK8C Hi Ludovic, Ludovic Court=C3=A8s writes: > Liliana Marie Prikler skribis: > >> Am Montag, dem 10.07.2023 um 23:21 +0200 schrieb Ludovic Court=C3=A8s: >>> Hello! >>>=20 >>> It just occurred to me that we might have a reasonable tradeoff at >>> hand: instead of adding Cc: or X-Debbugs-Cc: headers, we could add, >>> say, X-Guix-Team: headers.=C2=A0 That way, team members would be free to >>> filter incoming messages however they want. >>>=20 >>> How does that sound? >>>=20 >>> Of course if team members don=E2=80=99t pay attention to that header, w= e=E2=80=99re >>> back to square one, but hopefully that won=E2=80=99t be the case. >> But how would that header work in practice? Assuming the mails aren't >> automatically forwarded, we would need another interface, e.g. mumi to >> handle it. Plus, the issue of tagging a single patch in a series would >> still apply, would it not? > > Hi! The header in itself wouldn=E2=80=99t have any effect: it=E2=80=99s = up to > recipients to configure their email client to filter messages as they > see fit. So in that sense it=E2=80=99d be less intrusive. It could perhaps be used *in addition* to the X-Debbugs-CC headers, but I don't see it as a replacement, because e.g. for a single patch send directly to guix-patches@gnu.org, X-Debbugs-CC does the nice thing of retrieving the bug ID and adding its corresponding email into the forwarded mail, so that users see which bug the mail was attached to. > Mumi could also display a tag based on this and let people select only > issues relevant to a specific team. That would be an improvement over > what we have. > > Thoughts? I am still not convinced something deserves to be changed here; the problems reported so far, unless I'm missing something, were: 1. It's weird that send-email cause people to be CC'd itself 2. It can be confusing when a larger series touches multiple teams I think 1. mostly results from the initial surprise that send-email now behaves that way, but I don't see how it's a bad behavior to reach out to team members automatically. The process being automated should yield the same result as if a user called the etc/teams.scm script and placed the --add-header arguments themselves. 2. Is more of an edge case. I think if we have a policy of adding a LGTM *per patch* or 'LGTM for whole the series' it'd solve the immediate concern. Having a X-Guix-Team as proposed by Ludo *also* added could provide a bit more context in doubt. I'd be interested to hear back from Chris, which originally opened issue, in light of the above. --=20 Thanks, Maxim