Hi Simon, since I already replied you offline please forgive me for any repetitions, but later I realized a better comment to your metaphore (see below) could be useful to other people. Simon Tournier writes: [...] > On a side note, documentation is very fine but I do not read (or > study!?) the documentation of my oven, instead I am just cooking stuff > for fun. On a side note, I like your metaphores! OK but in my view the GNU Guix project is not a personal kitchen but an international food company [1], with a complex /distributed/ production process involving tools (ovens, etc.) and recipes (code) ranging from trivial to very complex; not to forget **legal requirements**, a challenging supply chain management and a very _peculiar_ process called "change integration management" from "customers" proposals. Am I exaggerating? Now, given the above context is a valid analogy, is it a fair expectation you can contribute to the company [1] with the food you cook just for fun with your oven? The food GNU Guix company [1] supplies is boostrappable and reproducible binary code, largerly "baked" using third-party recipes, with a progressively shrinking binary seed: yeah! :-D Well, to be honest the food analogy does not fit very well: Guix supplies /peculiar/ tools that users can use for a variety of activities, ranging from cooking just for fun to complex infrastructures management... and to effectively use /that/ tools users should better study its documentation (ungrateful job the documentation writer!) ;-) [...] > If a project needs really lengthy documentation for just contributing, > either it is a more-than-thousand contributors project, as the Linux > kernel I disagree this is a valid metric to measure the complexity of the process called "change integration management", it could even be _one_ customer asking to change the recipe for his preferred cake. > either something is wrong. Maybe both. ;-) ...or maybe it's not "just" a project but a whole food compay [1]. Oh, oh, oh: wait! Are we going into /that/ famous essay [2] and its sequel [3] ?!? (very interesting readings!) ...OK, I surrender, unconditionally! :-D Happy cooking! :-) Gio' [1] with a very peculiar vision, mission and business model; but please concede the analogy [2] "On Management and the Maginot Line" http://www.catb.org/~esr/writings/cathedral-bazaar/cathedral-bazaar/ar01s12.html [3] "Project Structures and Ownership" http://catb.org/~esr/writings/homesteading/homesteading/ar01s16.html P.S.: on a side note, I think that part (all?) of the problems discussed in [2] and [3] are rooted in the anthropological set of questions known as «Phenomenon of Bullshit Jobs» https://davidgraeber.org/articles/on-the-phenomenon-of-bullshit-jobs-a-work-rant/ -- Giovanni Biscuolo Xelera IT Infrastructures