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[72.10.128.66]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id r4-20020a05620a03c400b0076ef004f659sm6196814qkm.1.2023.10.12.10.08.53 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Thu, 12 Oct 2023 10:08:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Maxim Cournoyer In-Reply-To: <87h6mwrhl6.fsf@gnu.org> ("Ludovic =?UTF-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?="'s message of "Wed, 11 Oct 2023 23:10:13 +0200") References: <5760a46dfc1b97312d1d5512ebf1bd21da6707f5.1696903067.git.maxim.cournoyer@gmail.com> <87h6mwrhl6.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2023 13:08:53 -0400 Message-ID: <87pm1j7opm.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: guix-patches@gnu.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-patches-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: guix-patches-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Spam-Score: 5.83 X-Spam-Score: 5.83 X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 1B31B3B94E X-Migadu-Scanner: mx2.migadu.com X-TUID: Blik9zPD6B+q Hi, Ludovic Court=C3=A8s writes: > Hi! > > Maxim Cournoyer skribis: > >> * doc/contributing.texi (Commit Access): Mention that blocking comes with >> extra responsibilities. >> >> Change-Id: I27cafcb351f68057b7882198e72e9bf66ccc1262 > > (Oh, what does this line mean?) That's the commit-msg hook I've sent in bug#66027; in a nutshell it'd add traceability between what's been reviewed in Debbugs to what's in our Git (allowing to take actions on fully merged series, say, close the issue in Debbugs). >> +@url{https://www.seedsforchange.org.uk/consensus}. The project uses the >> +@samp{Requiring people who block to help find solutions} block variant, >> +which means a participant wishing to block a proposal bears a >> +special responsibility for finding alternatives and proposing ideas/code >> +to resolve the deadlock. > > I=E2=80=99m unsure about this. A situation I have in mind is this: a vol= unteer > writes a review describing issues with a proposed change that have no > obvious solution, or rejecting the change altogether (for instance > because it=E2=80=99s deemed outside the scope of the project or tool). > > How would one interpret the reviewer=E2=80=99s responsibility in this cas= e? It's a good question. Hopefully there'd be more than 2 persons participating in the conversation, in which case there may be some consensus emerging that the proposed change should be rejected. If there's no consensus at all and nobody is willing to iterate on the idea, then the issue should also be abandoned. I submitted this change hoping to encourage active participation toward consensus, and to "raise the bar" for using a block, which should seldom be used according to the consensus guide. It'd be easy to otherwise abuse it, at the detriment of the group. --=20 Thanks, Maxim