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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Scanner: mx11.migadu.com X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -1.52 X-Spam-Score: -1.52 X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 9298194CD2 X-TUID: SLAHmADkmJ1/ "Thompson, David" writes: > Changing GNU/FSF from the inside has been a losing strategy for at > least a decade, as a conservative estimate. Nothing has meaningfully > changed for the better and the situation continues to deteriorate both > socially and infrastructurally. Since I am unaware, for my awareness (and the awareness of others in a similar situation), could you please describe what specific attempts at social and infrastructure changes were attempted, but were unsuccessful? > Juli did a great job describing why in an earlier message. Perhaps Juliana's message made sense to those already aware. To those unaware, such as myself, what I got was that FSF made some "bad political move" and said move seems to have resulted in FSF being considered toxic by some people - to the point where simple association with it or GNU is sufficient to cause discomfort. If everyone whose opinion is relevant (I am not a committer, so perhaps I am intruding) is already aware of what's being discussed above, please ignore my message. However, I am having difficulty forming an informed opinion based on the details that have been shared so far. -- Suhail