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From: ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès)
To: Carlo Zancanaro <carlo@zancanaro.id.au>
Cc: 30637@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: [bug#30637] [WIP] shepherd: Poll every 0.5s to find dead forked services
Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2018 23:49:06 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87o9k33199.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <871sgzpiy9.fsf@zancanaro.id.au> (Carlo Zancanaro's message of "Mon, 05 Mar 2018 09:35:58 +1100")

Carlo Zancanaro <carlo@zancanaro.id.au> skribis:

> On Sun, Mar 04 2018, Ludovic Courtès wrote:
>> Good catch.  We could add this in gnu-build-system.scm in
>> core-updates, though it’s no big deal anyway since these are
>> throw-away environments.
>>
>> Thoughts?
>
> The current forking-service.sh test fails in that environment, so we
> won't be able to build shepherd on Hurd, or systems with Linux pre
> 3.4. This is already the case without my third commit, though, because
> the prctl fallback logic isn't in place yet.
>
> I think we should add it in core-updates. It does affect the behaviour
> of processes within the build environment, and can lead to test
> failures if people rely on pid 1 to reap zombie processes (which, from
> what I understand, they should be able to). This could even be leading
> to test failures in other packages which we have just disabled.

Yeah, makes sense.

>>> +            (match (select (list sock) (list) (list) 0.5)
>>> +              (((sock) _ _)
>>> +               (read-from sock))
>>> +              (_
>>> +               #f))
>>> +            (poll-services)
>>
>> Here everyone ends up paying some overhead (the 0.5 second timeout),
>> which isn’t great.
>>
>> How about something like:
>>
>>   (define poll-services
>>     (and (not (= 1 (getpid)))
>>          …))
>>
>>   (match (select (list sock) '() '() (if poll-services 0.5 0))
>>     …)
>
> The wait for 0.5 seconds is only an upper-bound for the
> timeout. Changing it to a 0 would actually be worse, because it would
> spend longer polling for running services. The `select` procedure
> waits for `sock` to be ready to read from. When it's ready it returns
> immediately, but if `sock` takes more than 0.5 seconds to be ready
> then it will return anyway (and take the second branch in the match,
> which does nothing).

Sorry, I didn’t mean 0 but rather #f (indefinite wait).

My point is: we shouldn’t wake up every 0.5 seconds for no reason.  IOW,
we should wake up periodically only in the non-pid-1-no-prctl case.

Does that make sense?

Ludo’.

  reply	other threads:[~2018-03-04 22:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-02-27 21:56 [bug#30637] [WIP] shepherd: Poll every 0.5s to find dead forked services Carlo Zancanaro
2018-02-28 22:06 ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-03-01 22:37   ` Carlo Zancanaro
2018-03-02  9:44     ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-03-02 10:13       ` Carlo Zancanaro
2018-03-02 12:42         ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-03-03  7:58           ` Carlo Zancanaro
2018-03-03 15:21             ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-03-03 20:49               ` Carlo Zancanaro
2018-03-04 22:11                 ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-03-04 22:35                   ` Carlo Zancanaro
2018-03-04 22:49                     ` Ludovic Courtès [this message]
2018-03-04 23:08                       ` Carlo Zancanaro
2018-03-05 14:15                         ` bug#30637: " Ludovic Courtès

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