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Subject: Re: drop net-tools from %base-packages?
Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2020 14:33:25 +0100
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Hello Simon!

Simon Josefsson <simon@josefsson.org> skribis:

> I'm not sure how to best find out what tools are actually used by Guix,
> but on my system the following tools appear to be installed:
>
> root@hamster ~# ls -la /run/current-system/profile/*bin/|grep net-tool|aw=
k '{ print $9 }'
> netstat
> route
> arp
> ipmaddr
> iptunnel
> mii-tool
> nameif
> plipconfig
> rarp
> slattach
> root@hamster ~#=20
>
> Is anything else from net-tools used?
>
> Most of the tools are esoteric.  I suspect the more well-known tools are
> 'route', 'netstat', 'arp' and 'rarp'.

Of these I use =E2=80=98netstat=E2=80=99 regularly, and =E2=80=98route=E2=
=80=99 sometimes.

> My Debian buster laptop has none of the tools above installed.  In fact,
> the net-tools package is not even installed by default.  It seems all
> uses have transitioned over to the modern 'iproute' suite.
>
> Thus, I suggest Guix drop net-tools from its required tools.  People who
> are nostalgic about the tools can install them separately, just like on
> Debian.

That sounds reasonable to me.

Any objections, people?  If not let=E2=80=99s do that.

Thanks,
Ludo=E2=80=99.