From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp2 ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms11 with LMTPS id 9sEdJtJgoF+dYAAA0tVLHw (envelope-from ) for ; Mon, 02 Nov 2020 19:41:06 +0000 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp2 with LMTPS id AM/NIdJgoF8xZQAAB5/wlQ (envelope-from ) for ; Mon, 02 Nov 2020 19:41:06 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 61DD49404D3 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 2020 19:41:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([::1]:37486 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kZfhR-0005e8-99 for larch@yhetil.org; Mon, 02 Nov 2020 14:41:05 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:58148) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kZfh6-0005dd-JL for guix-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Nov 2020 14:40:44 -0500 Received: from mugam.systemreboot.net ([139.59.75.54]:52312) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kZfh3-0008Pv-7O for guix-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Nov 2020 14:40:43 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=systemreboot.net; s=default; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:Date: References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date: Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id: List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=xhur362Ezjc089gdwndl9qbkbGzHAhrT696izTXLp3I=; b=K6HSWaeyObOCkmJE+CEinREoZ PUk9xNiclShhqg+tFI0umntN9QOALLgTfVAOwaFEFdUfIaqK3UurNgCAqxykdVwy5OgAPAzGK1kNN bCPFE85DfpCCzQ5+nqcfteGtzgMHyPq0kcOn7v+X7lEdhDo+QkcHTw8Dq9Z67YpAF2TsQGZ/ot5aP 9vEdvLb3rvCkvVMS/oAfjm+QkD8p2yaunUGe+7jyWudb8hBB4XSt3f3PTbD+yN1Ntwj4c2xzbLrHj d+1iknnxEluuaoWiDDiRtyYgfPVXwQ5NkL7z82kRFYlKp+wpNT7zjBcLdwybr4DFnzR3QB1VzfVfo cK5PpFNng==; Received: from [192.168.2.1] (helo=steel) by systemreboot.net with esmtpsa (TLS1.3) tls TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94) (envelope-from ) id 1kZfJa-002Diy-RD; Tue, 03 Nov 2020 00:46:26 +0530 From: Arun Isaac To: Pjotr Prins , Pierre Neidhardt Subject: Re: Etymology of derivation In-Reply-To: <20201102161916.oonml3utbrzuktcj@thebird.nl> References: <87v9eolvwy.fsf@systemreboot.net> <87sg9rlt93.fsf@systemreboot.net> <87wnz3wyr1.fsf@ambrevar.xyz> <20201102161916.oonml3utbrzuktcj@thebird.nl> Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2020 00:49:08 +0530 Message-ID: <87o8kflg7n.fsf@systemreboot.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Received-SPF: pass client-ip=139.59.75.54; envelope-from=arunisaac@systemreboot.net; helo=mugam.systemreboot.net X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/11/02 14:40:33 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = ??? 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" X-Scanner: ns3122888.ip-94-23-21.eu Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail (headers rsa verify failed) header.d=systemreboot.net header.s=default header.b=K6HSWaey; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed)" header.from=systemreboot.net (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.01 X-TUID: T73eDJScAJf3 --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain >> Actually I don't understand what "message" would mean in "build-message". >> I'm more confused than with "derivation" :p > > It is the minimal build information that the build-daemon requires. A > message to the build daemon in a way. Perhaps "build request" is a slightly better term. Just as HTTP requests are to a HTTP daemon, build requests are to the Guix build daemon. Besides, I wouldn't translate "build message/request" literally to Tamil. I might have to very subtly alter the meaning so that it sits well with common comprehension of the language. There is some degree of choice in the translation. Cheers! --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQFPBAEBCAA5FiEEf3MDQ/Lwnzx3v3nTLiXui2GAK7MFAl+gW6wbHGFydW5pc2Fh Y0BzeXN0ZW1yZWJvb3QubmV0AAoJEC4l7othgCuzZWMH/ju5EH5YGV1Y0yN99t0o a9kRmJaFm/Cap2Wgw5vCL6HaGlwNNzRsz2vggW0KR+qY6Umt1xSGPZMPm3p3FNH6 k+YpP9+j8qMWWiIwD55LIhvPyIifwEdRxUUiTZRkccs9cHJ/YGPs2YCBiI9SFC1J wjRcqkuuA+D2cJX7xshXFF84mINoVdFwD6I53bDc1LUuq1okeGpP5yjaWbYzM94Q RwXXpwf9HQ9iUkXpjDqN/4qY/IjiCg2ceWUxUv1yX9tpx+XApYXbEx1hyecF6YRH jRfjCqm7++084tqDVre2lXU8SSfdWyF2Fa3LmSgis96r3LhGBx9YGUP368Ofd/+V j8Q= =YqsQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--