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[24.18.44.142]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id t19sm316484pfg.38.2021.03.17.23.08.26 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Wed, 17 Mar 2021 23:08:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Chris Marusich In-Reply-To: <8735wted0s.fsf@cbaines.net> (Christopher Baines's message of "Wed, 17 Mar 2021 20:33:23 +0000") References: <20210316062805.2890883-1-cmmarusich@gmail.com> <1b9220a0444ae0666354625a0abbc532cae3ccde.camel@zaclys.net> <87v99qmfls.fsf_-_@gmail.com> <8735wted0s.fsf@cbaines.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.1 (gnu/linux) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2021 23:08:26 -0700 Message-ID: <87o8fhm1t1.fsf_-_@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: guix-patches@gnu.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-patches-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-patches" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1616047777; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding:resent-cc: resent-from:resent-sender:resent-message-id:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=zx2EopZdxNHxBqjdH1LuQKcA1C/3wE5WFX3SK2SWWos=; b=fMLcOjvo5Snx8jnkD7q4vkB5Nis3jyPFxLHKadTzjk2bz4IrHU6nYc+4t1KzGZt6maW7dV LyFjvaFrgMnekUVK02hCOQI3FGhaX2uaEbHDn9hbjktw2h75DVIw8Lu6fhWCG7L9B7Bh2v VG/zfbUp3tzr/GC//vCrB2wKI48/7WuKhjvMNd38Aau4YaIdt5SqYdi6LfAt+qKPDHYD2L YPFgoCO4maIh99RbnPDS7ZGIzHlpZDEPIRMmTVbfCW6aM61idTeeXwI5xaGRDCEjdnV2eq DhOWe4eX7ZNcY8s5BEkeTHa3r3hcPPiBDx8ay4bK82lIIFA19GyjufYvVFmzzQ== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1616047777; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=tP2FIq6d7hSkgfSkNNe0MsS0iYRX2NrWpQ/e8unnDrtN8LUmMo79+O4t8RkiqNJlUqDSML lG+ZO2t0oUaA57k9LnwXdfp4e3jifY/qhvA9lV2vecyMHtQ2x9Pa/aah+xL9r8R4BfDfp2 AQm2TjSkMY3ZG5BpXlFVxDEdRJmnFX/jLx4Sw0ns8+cgw+Du8iJjt8UQSRSCdt+KtVNVcU DfRlk0ixhPEH35m2P2wA5k5CaFVW3TzGYRkgBbhvVKKs5vAZxbDvldm2X08axbdnXEYgN7 dUmfqz02v4LSNtrrWivg/rm1SLAfBMmGHwgh24mWpMbhZTJgQnr7buXCm9MtTw== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=KVXz5s0q; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed)" header.from=gmail.com (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-patches-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-patches-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -1.30 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=KVXz5s0q; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed)" header.from=gmail.com (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-patches-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-patches-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: D66A61ED18 X-Spam-Score: -1.30 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: r8PeIW13Kd1E Christopher Baines writes: > Chris Marusich writes: > >> L=C3=A9o Le Bouter writes: >> >>> As discussed on IRC, it turns out no world rebuild happens: >> >> Yes, and Christopher Baines explained that the outputs matter, not the >> derivations themselves. The outputs of hello and gcc-toolchain are the >> same on master as they are on the tip of wip-ppc64le-for-master, so I >> think I was just confused: we are good to merge to master, after all. > > Thanks for sending these patches, that means they've appeared in > Patchwork [1] and that the Guix Data Service has processed it as a patch > series [2]. > > 1: https://patches.guix-patches.cbaines.net/project/guix-patches/list/?se= ries=3D7335 > 2: > https://data.guix-patches.cbaines.net/compare?base_commit=3D341dfe7eda497= 2af0a027357015ea595314438b0&target_commit=3D4757434caeac0077f67583701653a7b= 89a335e61 > > Looking at that comparison, it seems good to merge! The new > powerpc64le-linux derivations could be computed, and there's a > relatively small number of x86_64-linux derivations affected [3], which > is good, as this can be merged to master then. > > 3: > https://data.guix-patches.cbaines.net/compare/package-derivations?base_co= mmit=3D341dfe7eda4972af0a027357015ea595314438b0&target_commit=3D4757434caea= c0077f67583701653a7b89a335e61&system=3Dx86_64-linux&target=3Dnone&build_cha= nge=3D&after_name=3D&limit_results=3D&all_results=3Don > > Chris Awesome! Thank you for this additional information. It's very helpful. It looks like a few hundred packages, according to that page. I've looked at the patches and I'm not sure exactly why they are rebuilt. One guess is that perhaps changes to build-side code (e.g., guix/build/syscalls.scm) are getting included in the output of some derivations (maybe module-import-compiled derivations?) whose knock-on effects down the line are not obvious. In any case, it's "only" a few hundred packages, judging by the page Chris linked. I would argue that it is better to merge this for the release and just rebuild those few hundred packages, rather than to postpone a change that will make it significantly easier for curious people to hop in and try out / help out with the powerpc64le-linux port. I think we've done a pretty good job of limiting the "rebuild" blast radius, so I think we should go ahead and merge it. --=20 Chris