From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp1 ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms0.migadu.com with LMTPS id yMOKIMvew2AdMQAAgWs5BA (envelope-from ) for ; Sat, 12 Jun 2021 00:08:11 +0200 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp1 with LMTPS id cDXQG8vew2BlYgAAbx9fmQ (envelope-from ) for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2021 22:08:11 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 837D61D71E for ; Sat, 12 Jun 2021 00:08:10 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost ([::1]:36634 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lrpJx-0002m7-1l for larch@yhetil.org; Fri, 11 Jun 2021 18:08:09 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:34342) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lrpJb-0002kI-36 for guix-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Jun 2021 18:07:47 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:48458) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lrpJa-0002Nl-68 for guix-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Jun 2021 18:07:46 -0400 Received: from [2a01:e0a:1d:7270:af76:b9b:ca24:c465] (port=45302 helo=ribbon) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lrpJY-0007ZM-N9 for guix-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Jun 2021 18:07:46 -0400 From: =?utf-8?Q?Ludovic_Court=C3=A8s?= To: guix-devel@gnu.org Subject: Re: RISCV porting effort References: <877dj4fp4f.fsf@gnu.org> X-URL: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ X-Revolutionary-Date: 24 Prairial an 229 de la =?utf-8?Q?R=C3=A9volution?= X-PGP-Key-ID: 0x090B11993D9AEBB5 X-PGP-Key: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ludovic.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: 3CE4 6455 8A84 FDC6 9DB4 0CFB 090B 1199 3D9A EBB5 X-OS: x86_64-pc-linux-gnu Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2021 00:07:42 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Efraim Flashner's message of "Thu, 10 Jun 2021 16:20:42 +0300") Message-ID: <87o8cc3vip.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: guix-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1623449291; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post; bh=Mn3g0b7uaMLAsGNjKyAR0eDCemJRxYXwrKySD46VLdU=; b=CjpeF3pUARESekBR+ckF2+PStHNheVCkTtPEzOq1eIph11FQomKtPaNpnBnBXi3MZfvol7 hZ3Xhh6oxCQm+e1Biofkoy5CUw7Bm3DlBlE4HPkNhonUG2S6e9jAzrKINLL0K8rVBKG16J Xi4mC9fRzRIDD53yK4GNE3VuAiI5CBlqxvWEWriGpGxWy4RWj149VB85+Uj3eiwbS8q7CX 5qMf4xnuiw3Ii3WVuob6lI1Olm7zqfit2yNCK2KIF/p+x4V9z3mwEMvea7j4BXnkh5njn+ 2TcBFk7eNpZeGHP6O/ULv0uNhn0peXUqhVNLbuWCjBraoABw8U2+g6oYYvoHbw== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1623449291; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=m4FIFWIDReto9lci+SsZg9Av7u1NUGFW6+Z9R6dHpWAyDJi2tAnLQOK6HH2enM2JQd4ZKR Mo6PmgokKHUisLVaJMl+RRyml06NkMoINbJauFQEQeUwch2rfZ2gDmzb2FcAouc1Hlr/Jr DLGSL2JgsUk/5EoGw7zR1150g6blb68sqqN9FeA3GOEgvH6gznif4rHdWE256fbRp+jfRR eW6j2JVdg5ktr0EzAt65MdpkYLTGAtmAFfZbmb5OVavP60Y35SuIGB31HPRVBcOjTS1TXl i4P3VAe2/u6uBauIE4neYHeHhU7SbSqngK+EGd3zphN8yJo1Ye0MXQwLQ7EXgg== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gnu.org; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -2.92 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gnu.org; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 837D61D71E X-Spam-Score: -2.92 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: X7joEtAdGi8W Hello! Efraim Flashner skribis: > On Tue, Jun 08, 2021 at 03:43:44PM +0200, Ludovic Court=C3=A8s wrote: [...] >> If the HiFive works fine, let me remind you that we have budget to buy >> hardware, so we could just as well order a couple of these right away >> (maybe you=E2=80=99ll have Guix System running by the time we receive th= em ;-)). > > On one hand they seem similar to some of our aarch64 boards (but with > 16GB of RAM), on the other hand it'd be a coup to announce serious > support for the platform so quickly. I=E2=80=99m not saying we should announce anything, but rather that we get = ready for when the port is functional (especially if there=E2=80=99s typically 6 months between ordering and shipping). > I had to pay import tax when I received mine, and I assume those in > Europe did too, so I'd recommend they be hosted in the US since IIRC > they're shipping from Texas. It might be nice to wait until we have it > working for sure, but the lead time is still expected to be 6 months > between ordering and shipping dates. OK. I don=E2=80=99t doubt =E2=80=9Cworking for sure=E2=80=9D will eventual= ly happen; I wouldn=E2=80=99t be surprised if it takes less than 6 months even. :-) (I=E2=80=99m not talking about the reduced bootstrap seeds, just the gross bootstrap as currently done on ARM.) > I suppose if something else comes along that's faster we could always > cancel an order and switch to that. > > I have mine sitting in a mini-ITX case, using a libre-respecting NVIDIA > card. Definitely a more serious board than the aarch64 boards I've > bought in the past. Good! Ludo=E2=80=99.