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In-Reply-To: <20240409013136.0d0e1aac@fedora.email> References: <20240321182833.19ff1335@fedora.email> <87msqrv42a.fsf@wireframe> <20240409013136.0d0e1aac@fedora.email> Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2024 05:52:55 -0700 Message-ID: <87o7ai3dg8.fsf@lease-up.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Received-SPF: pass client-ip=208.82.101.137; envelope-from=felix.lechner@lease-up.com; helo=sail-ipv4.us-core.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-guix@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-to: Felix Lechner From: Felix Lechner via Errors-To: help-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: help-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -4.60 X-Spam-Score: -4.60 X-Migadu-Queue-Id: C032216A6B X-Migadu-Scanner: mx12.migadu.com X-TUID: QbF6v6vbvgMi Hi William, On Tue, Apr 09 2024, William wrote: > Could someone explain exactly what the "core-updates" branch is? The mission of that branch is changing but it's not going away. Originally, it pooled all edits that resulted in large numbers of rebuilds on the substitute servers. After team branches were allowed on Savannah, the branch now pools updates to "core" packages. [1][2] Personally, I think we should get rid of the branch. [3] > Can perhaps "core-updates" be added as an extra channel on Guix > manually? You may be able to do that via your home or your system channels configuration, but I haven't tried. Instead, I maintain my own branch which carries the modifications my systems require. [4] I expect that situation to persist indefinitely. > And how long usually it takes for these patches to make its way from > "core-updates" to master? On average about a year, or a year and a half. That unusually long period has been identified as an example where the project's performance as a group falls short of our collective expectations. Unfortunately, the fear of causing rebuilds on the substitute servers is too dominant in our minds. The group cannot muster the courage to ignore it in the name of progress. As nckx pointed out, "no one likes our Gentoo emulation mode." Kind regards Felix [1] https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guix-devel/2023-12/msg00059.html [2] https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guix-devel/2024-01/msg00096.html [3] https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guix-devel/2024-02/msg00334.html [4] https://codeberg.org/lechner/guix/src/branch/lechner-experimental