From: Felix Lechner via "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." <guix-devel@gnu.org>
To: "Jonathan Frederickson" <jonathan@terracrypt.net>,
"Sergio Pastor Pérez" <sergio.pastorperez@outlook.es>,
"Marek Paśnikowski" <marek@marekpasnikowski.pl>,
"Ludovic Courtès" <ludo@gnu.org>
Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org, guix-sysadmin <guix-sysadmin@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Sustainable funding and maintenance for our infrastructure
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2024 06:21:38 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87o75vb5p9.fsf@lease-up.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <be7d660f-0b57-47f1-be6f-d61ac4458548@app.fastmail.com>
Hi Jonathan,
On Tue, Aug 13 2024, Jonathan Frederickson wrote:
> the trouble is identifying "independent" seeders.
Thank you for your valuable perspectives on this important topic.
The serving someone else's substitutes could also arise more innocently,
for example via a technical misconfiguration or because of an incentive
system that rewards the contribution of substitutes.
> you would want this to be an indication that multiple individuals were
> able to reproducibly build the same packages bit-for-bit.
> You may want a way for someone running a substitute server to
> additionally attest that they had individually built the derivation in
> question.
Is it possible for someone to reliably attest that they individually
built a reproducible work product? I believe the needed variation in
inputs, like a hash, is incompatible with the goal of reproducability.
Kind regards
Felix
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-08-14 13:23 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-07-02 14:24 Sustainable funding and maintenance for our infrastructure Ludovic Courtès
2024-07-03 1:13 ` indieterminacy
2024-07-04 16:37 ` Simon Tournier
2024-07-08 12:02 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2024-07-09 14:49 ` Simon Tournier
2024-07-11 9:23 ` Ludovic Courtès
2024-07-08 15:46 ` Vagrant Cascadian
2024-07-08 18:28 ` Vincent Legoll
2024-07-09 9:47 ` Tomas Volf
2024-07-11 10:33 ` Andreas Enge
2024-07-11 20:44 ` Felix Lechner via Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution.
2024-07-11 9:38 ` Ludovic Courtès
2024-07-12 10:44 ` Simon Tournier
2024-07-21 12:52 ` Ludovic Courtès
2024-07-08 16:27 ` Efraim Flashner
2024-07-08 17:21 ` Enrico Schwass
2024-07-11 10:48 ` Andreas Enge
2024-07-11 9:28 ` Ludovic Courtès
2024-08-01 22:11 ` Marek Paśnikowski
2024-08-13 2:53 ` Jonathan Frederickson
2024-08-13 16:23 ` Sergio Pastor Pérez
2024-08-13 23:38 ` Jonathan Frederickson
2024-08-14 13:21 ` Felix Lechner via Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution. [this message]
2024-08-24 23:15 ` Jonathan Frederickson
2024-08-21 22:07 ` P2P Guix package building and distribution Christine Lemmer-Webber
2024-08-22 9:05 ` Andreas Enge
2024-08-22 21:57 ` Samuel Christie via Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution.
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2024-07-02 14:26 Sustainable funding and maintenance for our infrastructure Ludovic Courtès
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