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From: ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès)
To: "Niels Möller" <nisse@lysator.liu.se>
Cc: Guix-devel <Guix-devel@gnu.org>,
	"Torbjörn Granlund" <tg@gmplib.org>,
	gmp-bugs@gmplib.org
Subject: Re: On being welcoming
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2015 15:45:49 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87mvt7lsrm.fsf__17363.6671658189$1450455602$gmane$org@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <nnlh8shy7c.fsf@armitage.lysator.liu.se> ("Niels \=\?utf-8\?Q\?M\?\= \=\?utf-8\?Q\?\=C3\=B6ller\=22's\?\= message of "Fri, 18 Dec 2015 11:01:59 +0100")

nisse@lysator.liu.se (Niels Möller) skribis:

> ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès) writes:
>
>> I dare say that technical expertise does not excuse disdain and
>> contempt.  This behavior is actively harmful to GMP and GNU.
>
> Some developers may be more polite than others, but you really need to
> follow the bug reporting instructions.

Of course I need to follow them.  The crucial thing is that this can be
said in a respectful way, like you did.  No need to be insulting.

> If you are disappointed about any individual's behaviour, I suspect it's
> usually more productive to start by trying to solve it off list (maybe
> you did? I wouldn't know of course). Mailing list discussons about
> personal issues tend to overheat too easily.

This is not a personal issue at all.  This behavior is a problem not
just for me (it wouldn’t matter, I could just refrain from ever
contributing).  It is a problem for the project.

I think it is crucially important that you as a community recognize that
this behavior is not acceptable.  There’s nothing personal in doing
that; it’s the behavior that we should condemn, not the person.

It would be a missed opportunity if, once again, this behavior is
quietly excused.

Thank you Niels for having taken the time to reply.

Ludo’.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-12-18 14:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-12-16 11:29 GMP 6.1.0 without assembly lacks ‘__gmpn_invert_lib’ on ARM Ludovic Courtès
2015-12-16 13:02 ` Torbjörn Granlund
2015-12-16 22:39   ` Ludovic Courtès
2015-12-17  1:07     ` Torbjörn Granlund
2015-12-17 21:45       ` Christopher Allan Webber
2015-12-17 21:48       ` On being welcoming Ludovic Courtès
2015-12-18  4:25         ` Mike Mohr
2015-12-18 15:51           ` Niels Möller
2015-12-18 19:04           ` Torbjörn Granlund
2015-12-19 17:21             ` Mike Mohr
     [not found]           ` <nn1tajiwlk.fsf@armitage.lysator.liu.se>
2015-12-18 19:09             ` Christopher Allan Webber
2015-12-18 10:01         ` Niels Möller
     [not found]         ` <nnlh8shy7c.fsf@armitage.lysator.liu.se>
2015-12-18 14:45           ` Ludovic Courtès [this message]
     [not found]           ` <87mvt7lsrm.fsf@gnu.org>
2015-12-18 15:29             ` Niels Möller
2015-12-18 16:53           ` Christopher Allan Webber
2015-12-18 23:14 ` GMP 6.1.0 without assembly lacks ‘__gmpn_invert_lib’ on ARM Ludovic Courtès

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