From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Andy Wingo Subject: Re: NetworkManager instead of Wicd in =?utf-8?Q?=E2=80=98%desktop?= =?utf-8?Q?-services=E2=80=99=3F?= Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2017 20:17:03 +0200 Message-ID: <87mv6iz1b4.fsf@igalia.com> References: <87iniaf06l.fsf@gnu.org> <8760e95qxu.fsf@openmailbox.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:47215) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dml4h-0006iZ-GL for guix-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 29 Aug 2017 14:17:20 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dml4c-0003kn-UV for guix-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 29 Aug 2017 14:17:19 -0400 In-Reply-To: <8760e95qxu.fsf@openmailbox.org> (Kei Kebreau's message of "Sun, 30 Jul 2017 21:35:25 -0400") List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+gcggd-guix-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" To: Kei Kebreau Cc: guix-devel On Mon 31 Jul 2017 03:35, Kei Kebreau writes: > ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic Court=C3=A8s) writes: > >> Hello Guix! >> >> Shouldn=E2=80=99t we replace Wicd with NetworkManager in =E2=80=98%deskt= op-services=E2=80=99? >> >> I=E2=80=99ve given it a try on a GuixSD GNOME installation and it appear= s to >> work well, and it=E2=80=99s obviously well-integrated with GNOME, wherea= s Wicd >> is a bit hidden (one has to know what to look for) and =E2=80=9Cforeign.= =E2=80=9D >> >> Thoughts? >> >> Now, as someone who doesn=E2=80=99t use GNOME, I wonder if NM would work= well >> for me. Last time I tried it=E2=80=99s CLI was too low-level to be usab= le, and >> I don=E2=80=99t remember seeing a curses interface. Suggestions? >> >> Thanks, >> Ludo=E2=80=99. > > I'm in favor of the change as long as NetworkManager's equivalents to > wicd-gtk and wicd-curses are installed by default. Mark brought up > nmtui; that sounds like something we should enable. Also, it would be > nice to have notifications work (if they don't already) when using > nm-applet. I hear that this depends on xfce4-notifyd? It seems like all GNOME users are ready for this change. I tried it out locally and it's quite nice. Patch like this: diff --git a/gnu/services/desktop.scm b/gnu/services/desktop.scm index 0509bd8a4..f12fe78e5 100644 --- a/gnu/services/desktop.scm +++ b/gnu/services/desktop.scm @@ -810,7 +810,8 @@ with the administrator's password." =20=20=20=20=20 ;; The D-Bus clique. (avahi-service) - (wicd-service) + (service network-manager-service-type) + (service wpa-supplicant-service-type) (udisks-service) (upower-service) (accountsservice-service) The network manager command also seems to include `nmtui' for a curses-based interface, and `nmcli' for a command-line interface. I don't know if there's an applet or something like that, but of course that could be installed as part of the xfce-desktop-service package. Seems to me like network manager could be a good default for Guix desktop systems. Andy