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From: Andy Wingo <wingo@igalia.com>
To: Kei Kebreau <kei@openmailbox.org>
Cc: guix-devel <guix-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: NetworkManager instead of Wicd in ‘%desktop-services’?
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2017 20:17:03 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87mv6iz1b4.fsf@igalia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8760e95qxu.fsf@openmailbox.org> (Kei Kebreau's message of "Sun, 30 Jul 2017 21:35:25 -0400")

On Mon 31 Jul 2017 03:35, Kei Kebreau <kei@openmailbox.org> writes:

> ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès) writes:
>
>> Hello Guix!
>>
>> Shouldn’t we replace Wicd with NetworkManager in ‘%desktop-services’?
>>
>> I’ve given it a try on a GuixSD GNOME installation and it appears to
>> work well, and it’s obviously well-integrated with GNOME, whereas Wicd
>> is a bit hidden (one has to know what to look for) and “foreign.”
>>
>> Thoughts?
>>
>> Now, as someone who doesn’t use GNOME, I wonder if NM would work well
>> for me.  Last time I tried it’s CLI was too low-level to be usable, and
>> I don’t remember seeing a curses interface.  Suggestions?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Ludo’.
>
> I'm in favor of the change as long as NetworkManager's equivalents to
> wicd-gtk and wicd-curses are installed by default. Mark brought up
> nmtui; that sounds like something we should enable. Also, it would be
> nice to have notifications work (if they don't already) when using
> nm-applet. I hear that this depends on xfce4-notifyd?

It seems like all GNOME users are ready for this change.  I tried it out
locally and it's quite nice.  Patch like this:

    diff --git a/gnu/services/desktop.scm b/gnu/services/desktop.scm
    index 0509bd8a4..f12fe78e5 100644
    --- a/gnu/services/desktop.scm
    +++ b/gnu/services/desktop.scm
    @@ -810,7 +810,8 @@ with the administrator's password."
     
              ;; The D-Bus clique.
              (avahi-service)
    -         (wicd-service)
    +         (service network-manager-service-type)
    +         (service wpa-supplicant-service-type)
              (udisks-service)
              (upower-service)
              (accountsservice-service)

The network manager command also seems to include `nmtui' for a
curses-based interface, and `nmcli' for a command-line interface.  I
don't know if there's an applet or something like that, but of course
that could be installed as part of the xfce-desktop-service package.
Seems to me like network manager could be a good default for Guix
desktop systems.

Andy

  reply	other threads:[~2017-08-29 18:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-07-30 14:50 NetworkManager instead of Wicd in ‘%desktop-services’? Ludovic Courtès
2017-07-30 14:59 ` ng0
2017-07-30 15:18 ` Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2017-07-30 18:39   ` NetworkManager instead of Wicd in ???%desktop-services???? Pjotr Prins
2017-07-30 18:52     ` ng0
2017-07-31  9:42       ` Pjotr Prins
2017-07-31  8:12   ` NetworkManager instead of Wicd in ‘%desktop-services’? Ludovic Courtès
2017-07-30 17:25 ` Mark H Weaver
2017-07-31  8:26   ` Ludovic Courtès
2017-07-31 11:23     ` Mark H Weaver
2017-07-31 13:23       ` Ludovic Courtès
2017-08-04  4:10     ` Mark H Weaver
2017-08-05 20:56       ` Ludovic Courtès
2017-07-31 12:28   ` Maxim Cournoyer
2017-07-31 13:26     ` Ludovic Courtès
2017-07-31 17:37       ` Mark H Weaver
2017-08-02 13:25       ` Maxim Cournoyer
2017-08-02 14:26         ` Adam Van Ymeren
2017-08-03 14:58           ` Maxim Cournoyer
2017-08-05 20:52           ` Ludovic Courtès
2017-08-10 18:36             ` Adam Van Ymeren
2017-08-02 21:54   ` Mekeor Melire
2017-07-30 18:31 ` Efraim Flashner
2017-07-31  1:35 ` Kei Kebreau
2017-08-29 18:17   ` Andy Wingo [this message]
2017-08-30 10:05     ` Ludovic Courtès
2017-09-02  9:49       ` Mark H Weaver
2017-09-02 22:55         ` Ludovic Courtès
2017-08-04  7:40 ` Chris Marusich
2017-08-05 21:01   ` Ludovic Courtès
2017-08-06  7:16     ` aurelien
2017-08-06 11:47     ` maze
2017-08-10 19:36       ` ng0
     [not found]         ` <1502403919.10354.6@mail.strahlungsfrei.de>
2017-08-10 22:43           ` ng0

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