From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Christopher Lemmer Webber Subject: Re: Packaging a free Firefox Date: Wed, 16 May 2018 14:07:39 -0500 Message-ID: <87muwzh11g.fsf@dustycloud.org> References: <87y3h1g42q.fsf@lassieur.org> <87tvrlhi58.fsf@hyperbola.info> <878t8xo9t9.fsf@gnu.org> <20180506125312.aadd4fixeungiwv6@thebird.nl> <87fu2rip0r.fsf@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:57713) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fJ1m1-0007Tg-R9 for guix-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 16 May 2018 15:07:45 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fJ1m0-0006yk-PD for guix-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 16 May 2018 15:07:41 -0400 Received: from dustycloud.org ([2600:3c02::f03c:91ff:feae:cb51]:46742) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fJ1m0-0006yL-K7 for guix-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 16 May 2018 15:07:40 -0400 In-reply-to: <87fu2rip0r.fsf@gmail.com> List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+gcggd-guix-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" To: Katherine Cox-Buday Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org Katherine Cox-Buday writes: > Pjotr Prins writes: > >>> Not packaging FF or crippling FF is a no-go! Doing so will discourage >>> users from using GuixSD and Free Software. > > As an anecdote with a data-point of one, I uninstalled GuixSD because I > suddenly needed the machine I was running it on to be my daily driver. I > had been attempting to package Firefox whenever I had a spare moment, > but I ran out of time and needed it to work as I didn't have time to > migrate all the machines I use to a libre-friendly browser (nor am I > sure I want to). I'm sorry to hear we lost you as a user, and hope eventually you can come back. I suspect that you aren't the only person whom we've lost due to this. I think that means that at least one of these three is a priority, IMO: - Getting Chromium in - Getting Firefox in (even if we remove the direct link to Mozilla's extensions page and have to rebrand to Aurora) - Getting a channels mechanism These days Guix has nearly everything I need, but this is a clear gap for many. Icecat helps a tremendous amount (and thank you thank you to Mark for all your work keeping things patched) but I do think we need to provide some other browser options. - Chris