From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp2 ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms0.migadu.com with LMTPS id F+GoMihRUmFw/gAAgWs5BA (envelope-from ) for ; Tue, 28 Sep 2021 01:18:00 +0200 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp2 with LMTPS id 0C22LShRUmGsFQAAB5/wlQ (envelope-from ) for ; Mon, 27 Sep 2021 23:18:00 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 82D30F8DC for ; Tue, 28 Sep 2021 01:17:59 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost ([::1]:44568 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mUzsk-000062-MZ for larch@yhetil.org; Mon, 27 Sep 2021 19:17:58 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:37518) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mUzsG-0008Se-2G for guix-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 27 Sep 2021 19:17:28 -0400 Received: from cascadia.aikidev.net ([2600:3c01:e000:267:0:a171:de7:c]:38998) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mUzsD-0006Ua-TG; Mon, 27 Sep 2021 19:17:27 -0400 Received: from localhost (unknown [IPv6:2600:3c01:e000:21:21:21:0:100e]) (Authenticated sender: vagrant@cascadia.debian.net) by cascadia.aikidev.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 54E461ACB0; Mon, 27 Sep 2021 16:17:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Vagrant Cascadian To: Mark H Weaver , Leo Famulari , Jason Self Subject: Re: Linux-libre source code will be taken offline In-Reply-To: <87wnn1hcrr.fsf@netris.org> References: <87wnn1hcrr.fsf@netris.org> Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2021 16:17:05 -0700 Message-ID: <87mtnxbocu.fsf@ponder> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Received-SPF: none client-ip=2600:3c01:e000:267:0:a171:de7:c; envelope-from=vagrant@debian.org; helo=cascadia.aikidev.net X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: guix-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." 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We do use the scripts. > > Unfortunately, the older deblobbing scripts have now been removed from > the HTTPS URLs that our linux-libre build recipes fetched them from, so > I guess there will now be difficulties for users trying to reproduce any > Guix system more than about a month old. > > If we wish to preserve Guix users' ability to reproduce older systems, > we will need an 'origin' to fetch the Linux-libre deblob scripts from > that has a policy of retaining older releases, unchanged and at a fixed > location. Apparently the HTTPS URLs at > that we currently use are not suitable for that purpose. > > The Linux-libre git repository *might* be suitable, but I haven't yet > seen a commitment from the Linux-libre project that they will retain the > tags for older flawed deblobbing scripts in their repository going > forward. Without tags protecting them, I guess the commits could be > deleted by 'git-gc' even if we referenced them directly by their commit > hashes. > > Perhaps the SWH fallback is the answer we need, if they are archiving > the Linux-libre git repository. Does anyone know if they are? The most promising two I found were: https://archive.softwareheritage.org/browse/origin/directory/?origin_url=git://linux-libre.fsfla.org/releases.git https://archive.softwareheritage.org/browse/origin/directory/?origin_url=https://jxself.org/git/linux-libre.git Not sure exactly how Software Heritage handles rebased branches... live well, vagrant --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iHUEARYKAB0WIQRlgHNhO/zFx+LkXUXcUY/If5cWqgUCYVJQ9wAKCRDcUY/If5cW quuKAQDQ30yZIvN8ywb2W+ihfiOIMVj3InMmeyjJdoelOQzNxAEA3/kY8gbbMQh0 lrqoQXHbAY0wwsxNEP2zhgmfWMs8UAk= =XgQ0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--