From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp2 ([2001:41d0:2:bcc0::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms0.migadu.com with LMTPS id qEyTMZU3aGHpEgEAgWs5BA (envelope-from ) for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2021 15:58:45 +0200 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:bcc0::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp2 with LMTPS id mLNALZU3aGELVQAAB5/wlQ (envelope-from ) for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2021 13:58:45 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6AC8D1485F for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2021 15:58:45 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost ([::1]:52524 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mb1Fs-0003WK-Fc for larch@yhetil.org; Thu, 14 Oct 2021 09:58:44 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:44354) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mb1Fj-0003W9-P9 for guix-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 14 Oct 2021 09:58:35 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:48314) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mb1Fi-0000AU-Vs; Thu, 14 Oct 2021 09:58:34 -0400 Received: from 91-160-117-201.subs.proxad.net ([91.160.117.201]:51012 helo=ribbon) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mb1Fi-0002hu-LK; Thu, 14 Oct 2021 09:58:34 -0400 From: =?utf-8?Q?Ludovic_Court=C3=A8s?= To: Maxim Cournoyer Subject: Re: Merging the =?utf-8?B?4oCcYmluYXJ54oCd?= NPM importer? References: <87mto8zpll.fsf@airmail.cc> <87zgs3829p.fsf@gnu.org> <87fsttuys3.fsf@dustycloud.org> <877deo473m.fsf@gmail.com> <87a6jeayuf.fsf@ngyro.com> <871r4opfbf.fsf@gmail.com> X-URL: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ X-Revolutionary-Date: 23 =?utf-8?Q?Vend=C3=A9miaire?= an 230 de la =?utf-8?Q?R=C3=A9volution?= X-PGP-Key-ID: 0x090B11993D9AEBB5 X-PGP-Key: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ludovic.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: 3CE4 6455 8A84 FDC6 9DB4 0CFB 090B 1199 3D9A EBB5 X-OS: x86_64-pc-linux-gnu Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2021 15:58:32 +0200 In-Reply-To: <871r4opfbf.fsf@gmail.com> (Maxim Cournoyer's message of "Wed, 13 Oct 2021 21:26:12 -0400") Message-ID: <87mtnbpv1z.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: guix-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1634219925; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post; bh=wP+i6FRRXNQdFKA7EXRqtmNkZjGrpggtgGGLioKBNHg=; b=Jpn0xQfHSW1lsDBWLz4Dsu0fM20T7kEnMQ9D7cFtArdjiNJBmVU+6TQe5KzZlMfjmOaG2v vfybBadNo7Z3og9e/9RsjjIUCmudgSXrnF4K8vYED90zOKNp73RNrxAx0lDmILDyCvjLkv 28O/vD8d4jFTooYrU7302pT9BYyRd2UNxUrsqLwtUE45mbVZnHwY4hmQk5AIuxo6+O+B5Q IUxI2d1xwbHPWYKOoKEZ66aprVWwx6IGTTrJFSbkFVRI7IwiTmWuetbzC3f9jtJgqrp3ou 7vPT2fy6q1B1g9m8TD9yTGOfaiuUlcWorSE+Y864pIfj5oEQ+4esgZat1tfRug== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1634219925; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=F85J4urru62iJmzMClysyX2o8Hzws3eVAvHi3k7Mjuv4xt7Fd7hSUqLXJ3ILIcYP5HTasz /pIZxCObfuJj+XXMRD21A0xMb9DS4htPqNpDQwnmBSwuEtB2A9cAx3cqM4qvkt5ADrXwsR B2EwsD2HSeX/FpAO+26WgwbR7DJyQ0NZ/MnEk81iRRnIFfU9bPlVzC23wmbMnAf6U66BiR SXZNsP4zN6yPcLChRO1p0skilTYocRMyS/UuzquNcZqnhyHc+Iy/x1PfqHjq9EVq+ETRKI I7s9KjC8Bb0Rvy17hro3csTDSF1aQXbGmpIIRItP7QQJDkPj0arFCOSBnLhkmQ== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -1.91 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gnu.org; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 6AC8D1485F X-Spam-Score: -1.91 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: 5ky2kiyiVOer Hi, Maxim Cournoyer skribis: > In light of your message though, I think it may be fine to have the > importer in Guix as long as it is labeled as a technology preview, with > its current shortcomings documented :-). This may make it more > accessible and allow to refine it faster. Yes, I agree that the shortcomings should appear prominently in documentation, in particular the fact that the output does not meet (or not always) the standards for inclusion in Guix proper. It=E2=80=99s an unusual situation, but it seems that =E2=80=9Cmodern=E2=80= =9D development practices make it hard or impossible to meet our standards in the first place; yet, we=E2=80=99re missing out on a whole range of free software pac= kages by not doing anything. Offering the tool while not compromising on our standards seems like a reasonable middle ground. (It=E2=80=99s probably more than a =E2=80=9Ctechnology preview=E2=80=9D tho= ugh, in the sense that the code itself does what it=E2=80=99s meant to do and is (hopefully := -)) well-tested.) So whoever is interested in it can prepare patches! :-) Ludo=E2=80=99.