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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1641251758; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post; bh=cwUPFDxViMbEITIPfbSg6/+U5ZE/WjxF+9aDKW99KW0=; b=L9ZWp/i0qoS8Y5V631HNZiWMrDMYz07j454hV9rCjpyICrbR/cqBJX0HpzaKNjGsuGaAh0 jEpmTVLSGuWN4OqGXcMMQMtOfPw5pJAD6uopo65AJ9ojKzqVNtOkOhLCCbyeTHqTzUna+M at/k9sVgPLzojz7u6I6y1iR0i0T5/WAOhFs7PbvqVzSCjxMqyOgNhj1iJdY+kz1vjgqLNl PV7bUpoAzkpOJQtAbk2howZhWB/mDWBvQKMtAQDedkUluRddncPEpd5NszRzviqIqWT2JZ jfvWZCeT5sfOxooTXT+N+tSEctMu6PLDQAnOk+2aV294EoFkau3Mi7rtWqubPA== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1641251758; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=mnnRPNRgVec9M1N7N4JvDY+eag2DqnNCv5qZ5CTHcRNV2zhQrAmpyBu2zIVIPpCPvFq9Pw lBmWEjLPx8cfHclHDH/nyfUFYQoAUFsxorEnKg/OimGD1bGAaCRg6edGKJ1i0McqCK7Vra 5BYcE7sffT+RSwMi4a3yDVGxKj4vCiNe5z0XLmxlyH/Hlb15HXp0tsPNw6mp+fu42OfmL7 l5yye6c1Pygv52KPsMemYpBZgcSAJYkWVe742jzcXeCU78eMLg62lfpv8CJDB1GSXclkUC BpL/WgIZwSlMIxPsSR2nmzmfRwcmLEQQPgvFMP68qywmOeQJ+VJ1u9+BvqIHhw== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -3.09 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 49C0F3E03A X-Spam-Score: -3.09 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn1.migadu.com X-TUID: 6qhCyIFfW6E4 Hi Liliana, Liliana Marie Prikler writes: > Am Sonntag, dem 02.01.2022 um 17:57 -0500 schrieb Mark H Weaver: >> Hi Liliana, >>=20 >> Liliana Marie Prikler writes: >>=20 >> > Am Samstag, dem 01.01.2022 um 15:37 -0500 schrieb Mark H Weaver: >> > > Liliana Marie Prikler writes: >> > > > > Where is the Cantor-style diagonalization argument that you >> > > > > spoke of? >> > > > You skipped over it, read again.=C2=A0 The key point is that you're >> > > > referencing the thing you think will be invalidated to create >> > > > your scheme. >> > > I've carefully read your message at least 4 times, but I've been >> > > unable to find anything resembling Cantor's diagonalization >> > > argument in there.=C2=A0 Does anyone else see it?=C2=A0 Perhaps my p= owers >> > > of recognition are too weak. >> > Can I help your powers of recognition by describing everything in >> > terms of Turing machines? >>=20 >> How about pointing out what acts as the diagonal in your reasoning? > If you are talking specifically about the uncountability of real > numbers, that'd be quite deep down (as in an uncountability of push > actions to a particular Git repo, particularly if we also allow > reinitialization). Hmm. I think that the set of push actions to a particular Git repo is countable, even if we allow reinitialization. What makes you think that it's uncountable? I'd be very curious to see your argument for that. > My overview was admittedly too high-level; I jumped > ahead to the "this sentence is a lie" statement, which is "I trust, > that this tag which I don't trust, resolves to a particular commit".=20 > Mea culpa. I appreciate these words, thank you. Regards, Mark --=20 Disinformation flourishes because many people care deeply about injustice but very few check the facts. Ask me about .