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[72.10.134.76]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id j1-20020a37ef01000000b0078efd5f89ecsm1680483qkk.64.2024.04.19.08.22.57 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Fri, 19 Apr 2024 08:22:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Maxim Cournoyer To: Ludovic =?utf-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?= Cc: Steve George , Josselin Poiret , Guix Devel Subject: Re: Status of =?utf-8?Q?=E2=80=98core-updates=E2=80=99?= In-Reply-To: <87o7a5fnkg.fsf@gnu.org> ("Ludovic =?utf-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s=22'?= =?utf-8?Q?s?= message of "Fri, 19 Apr 2024 16:13:03 +0200") References: <87edbzri2p.fsf@gnu.org> <87h6got2e0.fsf@jpoiret.xyz> <874jc9l1sj.fsf@gnu.org> <877ch249jm.fsf@gnu.org> <87jzkvop8a.fsf@gmail.com> <87o7a5fnkg.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2024 11:22:56 -0400 Message-ID: <87msppl6lr.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::731; envelope-from=maxim.cournoyer@gmail.com; helo=mail-qk1-x731.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: guix-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -8.62 X-Migadu-Scanner: mx11.migadu.com X-Spam-Score: -8.62 X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 026EB634D X-TUID: 1U99YI6oySSH Hi Ludo, Ludovic Court=C3=A8s writes: > Hi Maxim, > > Maxim Cournoyer skribis: > >> Since branches were merged in, I believe the problem we are facing at >> the moment is librsvg failing its test suite with a segfault (!). Could >> be the glibc upgrade, or rust itself, I'm not sure. I was trying to >> upgrade librsvg, which needs an update anyway, but it pulls many rust >> crates updates. I'll get there eventually, if nobody beats me to it. > > Ouch, OK. I guess it doesn=E2=80=99t hurt if several of us take a look a= nd we > share our findings here. > >>> Josselin, Maxim: could you explain what problems there are around >>> pkgconf and what you would recommend? >> >> Nothing in particular to point at the moment, but remaining problems >> would manifest in the form of missing inputs, due to transitive libtool >> dependencies causing overlinking and the new pkgconf being smart enough >> to optimize away some previously captured link directives that would be >> baked in the RUNPATH and sastify libtool overlinking needs. >> >> The solution is to hunt the libtool .la files from the transitive >> dependencies causing the problem and removing them. See commit >> b6540bd285cbe5920ad379ddfc6256359ee7204c for an example. > > Good. So it seems like we can move forward after all and just do the > =E2=80=9Cnormal=E2=80=9D job and finding and fixing build failures along = these lines. > > Do we need ci.guix to build more packages to facilitate testing and > debugging? That=E2=80=99s something I can help with (though I=E2=80=99ll= be away for a > week). If we do this, and I believe it'd be useful, I think it'd help to fork a 'core-updates-frozen' and have the CI rebuild this one fully, leaving 'core-updates' open to business as usual. --=20 Thanks, Maxim