From: taylanbayirli@gmail.com (Taylan Ulrich Bayırlı/Kammer)
To: "Thompson, David" <dthompson2@worcester.edu>
Cc: guix-devel <guix-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Removing compilers that cannot be bootstrapped
Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2016 20:22:16 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87lh5bzlef.fsf@T420.taylan> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87pounzlpl.fsf@T420.taylan> ("Taylan Ulrich \=\?utf-8\?Q\?\=5C\=22Bay\=C4\=B1rl\=C4\=B1\=2FKammer\=5C\=22\=22's\?\= message of "Mon, 21 Mar 2016 20:15:34 +0100")
taylanbayirli@gmail.com (Taylan Ulrich "Bayırlı/Kammer") writes:
> "Thompson, David" <dthompson2@worcester.edu> writes:
>
>> Haskell, OCaml, Chicken, and other compilers that we package have a
>> serious issue that many of us are aware of: they cannot be built from
>> source! They rely upon pre-built binaries of the same compiler. I
>> understand that it's very inconvenient to not have these compilers
>> available to us, and all of the software that is written in their
>> respective languages, but I feel like all of our work is undermined by
>> making exceptions for them. I would like to remove compilers that
>> don't have a bunch of dependent packages yet such as Chicken until
>> upstream fixes the issue. But we have tons of Haskell packages and a
>> handful of OCaml packages and it would be heartbreaking to some to
>> remove all of that hard work.
>>
>> What can we possibly do to avoid being yet another distro that relies
>> on a bunch of blobs (leaving the *true* bootstrap binaries out of it
>> for now)?
>
> A while back Mark raised the idea of hosting one pre-compiled bootstrap
> version of each such compiler, and use that to compile further versions.
I now found Mark's mail in the archive:
https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guix-devel/2015-02/msg00814.html
Taylan
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-03-21 19:22 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-03-21 17:54 Removing compilers that cannot be bootstrapped Thompson, David
2016-03-21 19:15 ` Taylan Ulrich Bayırlı/Kammer
2016-03-21 19:22 ` Taylan Ulrich Bayırlı/Kammer [this message]
2016-03-21 19:32 ` Andreas Enge
2016-03-21 22:43 ` rain1
2016-03-22 16:23 ` Ludovic Courtès
2016-03-21 22:48 ` Ludovic Courtès
2016-03-22 9:56 ` Jookia
2016-03-22 16:25 ` Ludovic Courtès
2016-03-22 14:57 ` Eric Bavier
2016-03-22 16:22 ` Ludovic Courtès
2016-03-22 22:29 ` Christopher Allan Webber
2016-03-23 22:12 ` Ludovic Courtès
2016-03-23 22:49 ` Christopher Allan Webber
2016-03-24 3:11 ` Leo Famulari
2016-03-25 23:08 ` Ludovic Courtès
2016-03-26 0:22 ` Leo Famulari
2016-03-26 6:40 ` Chris Marusich
2016-03-26 6:55 ` Chris Marusich
2016-03-26 9:02 ` Jookia
2016-03-26 14:05 ` Alex Vong
2016-03-26 8:12 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2016-03-26 9:23 ` Jookia
2016-03-26 14:31 ` Ludovic Courtès
2016-03-26 17:19 ` Christopher Allan Webber
2016-03-26 6:51 ` John Darrington
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