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From: taylanbayirli@gmail.com (Taylan Ulrich Bayırlı/Kammer)
To: "Thompson, David" <dthompson2@worcester.edu>
Cc: guix-devel <guix-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Removing compilers that cannot be bootstrapped
Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2016 20:22:16 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87lh5bzlef.fsf@T420.taylan> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87pounzlpl.fsf@T420.taylan> ("Taylan Ulrich \=\?utf-8\?Q\?\=5C\=22Bay\=C4\=B1rl\=C4\=B1\=2FKammer\=5C\=22\=22's\?\= message of "Mon, 21 Mar 2016 20:15:34 +0100")

taylanbayirli@gmail.com (Taylan Ulrich "Bayırlı/Kammer") writes:

> "Thompson, David" <dthompson2@worcester.edu> writes:
>
>> Haskell, OCaml, Chicken, and other compilers that we package have a
>> serious issue that many of us are aware of: they cannot be built from
>> source!  They rely upon pre-built binaries of the same compiler.  I
>> understand that it's very inconvenient to not have these compilers
>> available to us, and all of the software that is written in their
>> respective languages, but I feel like all of our work is undermined by
>> making exceptions for them.  I would like to remove compilers that
>> don't have a bunch of dependent packages yet such as Chicken until
>> upstream fixes the issue.  But we have tons of Haskell packages and a
>> handful of OCaml packages and it would be heartbreaking to some to
>> remove all of that hard work.
>>
>> What can we possibly do to avoid being yet another distro that relies
>> on a bunch of blobs (leaving the *true* bootstrap binaries out of it
>> for now)?
>
> A while back Mark raised the idea of hosting one pre-compiled bootstrap
> version of each such compiler, and use that to compile further versions.

I now found Mark's mail in the archive:

https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guix-devel/2015-02/msg00814.html

Taylan

  reply	other threads:[~2016-03-21 19:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-03-21 17:54 Removing compilers that cannot be bootstrapped Thompson, David
2016-03-21 19:15 ` Taylan Ulrich Bayırlı/Kammer
2016-03-21 19:22   ` Taylan Ulrich Bayırlı/Kammer [this message]
2016-03-21 19:32   ` Andreas Enge
2016-03-21 22:43 ` rain1
2016-03-22 16:23   ` Ludovic Courtès
2016-03-21 22:48 ` Ludovic Courtès
2016-03-22  9:56   ` Jookia
2016-03-22 16:25     ` Ludovic Courtès
2016-03-22 14:57   ` Eric Bavier
2016-03-22 16:22     ` Ludovic Courtès
2016-03-22 22:29   ` Christopher Allan Webber
2016-03-23 22:12     ` Ludovic Courtès
2016-03-23 22:49       ` Christopher Allan Webber
2016-03-24  3:11         ` Leo Famulari
2016-03-25 23:08           ` Ludovic Courtès
2016-03-26  0:22             ` Leo Famulari
2016-03-26  6:40               ` Chris Marusich
2016-03-26  6:55                 ` Chris Marusich
2016-03-26  9:02                   ` Jookia
2016-03-26 14:05                   ` Alex Vong
2016-03-26  8:12                 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2016-03-26  9:23                   ` Jookia
2016-03-26 14:31                   ` Ludovic Courtès
2016-03-26 17:19                     ` Christopher Allan Webber
2016-03-26  6:51 ` John Darrington

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