From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic =?utf-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?=) Subject: Re: Being excellent to one another Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2017 15:27:48 +0100 Message-ID: <87lgs0kopn.fsf@gnu.org> References: <20170318110952.xhhobwl5ep4mlbpj@abyayala> <878to27laf.fsf_-_@gnu.org> <87inn499gk.fsf@dustycloud.org> <20170319195707.175eb056@khaalida> <20170320063619.GA20517@jocasta.intra> <878to0fhr3.fsf@gmail.com> <20170320095447.GA22437@jocasta.intra> <871stsfe13.fsf@gmail.com> <20170320104406.GA22867@jocasta.intra> <87ziggdwh4.fsf@gmail.com> <20170320121047.GA23894@jocasta.intra> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:45135) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cpyHr-0004Bn-EZ for guix-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 20 Mar 2017 10:27:58 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cpyHn-0000nx-HH for guix-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 20 Mar 2017 10:27:55 -0400 In-Reply-To: <20170320121047.GA23894@jocasta.intra> (John Darrington's message of "Mon, 20 Mar 2017 13:10:47 +0100") List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+gcggd-guix-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" To: John Darrington Cc: Alex Sassmannshausen , guix-devel@gnu.org Howdy! John Darrington skribis: > As I recall, their request was that I always use "singular they" and neve= r to=20 > mention other possible alternatives to anyone. I acknowledge their reque= st and=20 > recognise their every right to make it. But I feel no obligation to comp= ly with > their request. Ng0's reaction to my declining, I interpreted to mean tha= t they=20 > considered it not to be a request, but a demand. If this interpretation = was=20 > wrong, then I apologise to them. John, I think you=E2=80=99re playing on words here. It=E2=80=99s as simple as Alex wrote it: > - if you're not sure (or have forgotten), use "singular they", or ask > - if you know someone has a preference for pronouns, use those > - don't use pronouns when *you know* the other person does not identify > with them. In this case, what matters is respecting the other participant who explicitly asked to be referred to using non-gendered pronouns. It=E2=80= =99s a very simple request; honoring it costs us nothing but it can make a big difference to this person. I don=E2=80=99t want anyone of us to make someone else=E2=80=99s life harde= r by disregarding what they present as important to them. Thanks, Ludo=E2=80=99. PS: It=E2=80=99s a non-technical discussion but one that=E2=80=99s importan= t to have to make sure our group works correctly.