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[Roy Lemmon]

Hi,

Can anyone give me hints on getting Zoom installed with sound ?

I have installed Firefox and will run it from the browser. In fact I am
further along than this and have got Zoom to work, albeit by installing it
under nixos on my guix system. However it tells me that Zoom cannot access
the sound via the browser, in an official way so it looks legitimate.

It tells me to download the latest version of the browser but I think I
have that.

Is it to do with Firefox being installed via nixos on my guix system ?

Thanks for your help.

Cheers
Roy.

Re: Zoom

[aviva]

On 11/13/20 1:15 PM, Roy Lemmon wrote:
> Can anyone give me hints on getting Zoom installed with sound ?



yeah don't do it

Re: Zoom

[zimoun]

Dear,

On Fri, 13 Nov 2020 at 18:15, Roy Lemmon <roy@roylemmon.com> wrote:

> Can anyone give me hints on getting Zoom installed with sound ?

Since Zoom is not free, AFAIU, I am not sure that people here have hints
for that.  Does the sound work with Jitsi or BigBlueButton?


All the best,
simon

Re: Zoom

[Adonay Felipe Nogueira via]

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Em 13/11/2020 15:15, Roy Lemmon escreveu:
> Can anyone give me hints on getting Zoom installed with sound ?

Unless I'm mistaken, this is related to the software described in [1],
right?

If that is the case, then the Guix community won't be able to officially
help in this matter.

Computers are somewhat dumb, they understand only 0s and 1s. However,
humans cannot easily tell what these do, they need ways to both inspect
what is being, make changes, share and sell any of these, all of which
is made easy if the copyright holder of the work (Zoom Video
Communications, Inc and many others) were to distribute the source code
in any customary mean of file distribution, along with a license that
guarantees such rights to everyone.

In other words, it's tempting for the copyright holder to keep these
rights to themselves, due to the possibility for abusing the users of
the software. So, in the world of computers, for any work/data that can
be used practically/functionally (not just software), you as a user have
only two possibilities: either you exercise collective control of the
data, so that you can call upon others to help you do so when you're
incapable of; or someone controls the data and can misuse this position
to limit what you can do.

So, the Guix community won't be able to do much here due to the fact
that the copyright holder of Zoom did not give you, and us all, the
essential freedoms of the software, that is: the freedom to use it for
any purpose (freedom 0); to study and adapt it for any purpose, and
reuse de adaptations (freedom 1); to share and sell unlimited copies of
the original (freedom 2); and to do the same as 2, but for modified copies.

Guix being a project and a community committed to the Free System
Distribution Guidelines of the GNU project (GNU FSDG or simply FSDG)
([2]), cannot assist on the matters exclusively related to non-free
functiona/practical work/data, or those not mentioned in this message
that are still mentioned in the FSDG. In short, the official Guix
repositories, documentation, and the community won't be able to help.

However, excluding the kludge made by the copyright holders of Zoom,
there's no technological measures stopping you from using this thing.
It's advisable that you don't foster usage of this stuff by others.


# References


[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zoom_(software) .

[2]: https://www.gnu.org/distros/free-system-distribution-guidelines.html .


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Re: Zoom

[jbranso]

I have heard that Firefox does have some issues with Jitsi.  Your mileage may vary.  If you run into trouble, you can always try ungoogled-chromium.

Thanks,

Joshua

November 13, 2020 1:57 PM, "zimoun" <zimon.toutoune@gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear,
> 
> On Fri, 13 Nov 2020 at 18:15, Roy Lemmon <roy@roylemmon.com> wrote:
> 
>> Can anyone give me hints on getting Zoom installed with sound ?
> 
> Since Zoom is not free, AFAIU, I am not sure that people here have hints
> for that. Does the sound work with Jitsi or BigBlueButton?
> 
> All the best,
> simon

Re: Zoom

[raingloom]

On Fri, 13 Nov 2020 18:15:40 +0000
Roy Lemmon <roy@roylemmon.com> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Can anyone give me hints on getting Zoom installed with sound ?
> 
> I have installed Firefox and will run it from the browser. In fact I
> am further along than this and have got Zoom to work, albeit by
> installing it under nixos on my guix system. However it tells me that
> Zoom cannot access the sound via the browser, in an official way so
> it looks legitimate.
> 
> It tells me to download the latest version of the browser but I think
> I have that.
> 
> Is it to do with Firefox being installed via nixos on my guix system ?
> 
> Thanks for your help.
> 
> Cheers
> Roy.

It worked in ungoogled-chromium last time I tried it. I did not need to
install anything. IceCat was having trouble with WebRTC, even in Jitsi
Meet.

Re: Zoom

[Pierre Neidhardt]

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raingloom <raingloom@riseup.net> writes:

> It worked in ungoogled-chromium last time I tried it. I did not need to
> install anything. IceCat was having trouble with WebRTC, even in Jitsi
> Meet.

Turns out IceCat has no trouble with WebRTC, it's only the Jitsi rejects
the user-agent! :p

There is a popular "user agent switcher" extension: install it, set the
user agent to the latest Firefox and you'll be good to go!

Cheers!

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Re: Zoom

[Adonay Felipe Nogueira via]

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Em 14/11/2020 06:46, Pierre Neidhardt escreveu:
> Turns out IceCat has no trouble with WebRTC, it's only the Jitsi rejects
> the user-agent! :p
> 
> There is a popular "user agent switcher" extension: install it, set the
> user agent to the latest Firefox and you'll be good to go!

Please fill a bug against Jitsi-Meet on it's own issue/task tracker,
good webdesign tests for capabilities, not user-agent (Jitsi-Meet is
like an app inside a website). In the description, provide steps to
counter that at end-user level too. If/when that issue/task is reported,
remember to reference that others so that they can see how to accomplish
that.


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Re: Zoom

[Hartmut Goebel]

Am 13.11.20 um 19:15 schrieb Roy Lemmon:
> Can anyone give me hints on getting Zoom installed with sound ?

Don't do it, it's spyware.

And you don't even need it: When accessing Zoom via the Webbowser, there
should also be a tiny, tiny Link "Use Zoom in Browser."

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Re: Zoom

[Pierre Neidhardt]

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Sadly, this issue needs more love:

https://github.com/jitsi/jitsi-meet/issues/4836#issuecomment-727554161

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