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In the daily experience > of trans people, such remarks typically serve to invalidate their > identities. > I agree, and given that so-called "men's rights activist" types have time and time again used this type of argumentation to veil attacks on trans women under the guise of feminism, it should be rejected. people's sexual identities are already addressed as protected, and this is meant to protect all women, not only some of them. also I think when a man suggests making a changing to conduct regarding women, and a woman says "hold up thats not protecting me", and no other women come forward to defend the proposal, it should be obvious that the "debate" need not move forward. -- “In girum imus nocte et consumimur igni”