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That is not an exhaustive > list, these are just the first few things I encountered with "fortune > off". > > To reproduce the issue, run "fortune off" a few times. Or just > "fortune", though then it can take a bit longer. > > There are also a few non-nice things in the non-off set. E.g.: > > $ fortune >> User n.: >> A programmer who will believe anything you tell him. > # ^ from 'definitions' > > As such, just removing 'off' doesn't seem sufficient. Unless Someone=E2= =84=A2 > volunteers to remove the anti-fortunes (*), I would just remove > 'fortune-mod', given that it seems to serve no practical purpose byond > being non-nice. WDYT? 'off' here apparently means the 'offensive' database, as explained by Liliana; seems it offends alright :-). The GNU FSDG has says nothing about what programs may or may not contain, for a good reason: the line to draw could get very subjective (similar to how the GPL ). I don't think we should judge our software on terms falling outside of the Free Software Distribution Guidelines, but a simple thing we could add here would be a note in the description to caution the user that running @example fortune off @end example is intended to be offensive. What do you think? Thanks, Maxim