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spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "bug-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="bug-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: 7.21 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=riseup.net header.s=squak header.b=HTy8P6NX; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed)" header.from=riseup.net (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "bug-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="bug-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 40DDBC4B3 X-Spam-Score: 7.21 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: k+oA6ddAcAam bokr@bokr.com writes: > On +2022-08-09 15:46:17 +0200, Ludovic Court=C3=A8s wrote: >> Hola, >>=20 >> "pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)" skribis: >>=20 >> > * the main Spanish translation po/guix/es.po uses usuario >> > >> > * the French translation switches between =E2=80=9Cutilisateur=C2=B7ri= ces=E2=80=9D, >> > =E2=80=9Cutilisatrices et utilisateurs=E2=80=9D and more often mascu= line =E2=80=9Cutilisateurs=E2=80=9D >> > >> > * the Portuguese, Russian, German translation use masculine (although = at >> > least for German I use feminine in some examples) >> > >> > * German word for users is masculine Benutzer and feminine is >> > Benutzerinnen; there is a psychology study that Benutzer*innen is >> > perceived feminine while listing both masculine and feminine Benutzer >> > und Benutzerinnen is perceived as including men and women (a differe= nt >> > language and I might give too much weight to one scientific study) >> > >>=20 >> Just like for French, my suggestion would be to use a mixture of several >> techniques to achieve gender neutrality, probably in this order: >>=20 >> =E2=80=A2 Using gender-neutral words=E2=80=94e.g., =E2=80=9Cpersonas= =E2=80=9D or =E2=80=9Cqui=C3=A9n=E2=80=9D rather than >> =E2=80=9Cusuarios=E2=80=9D. >>=20 >> =E2=80=A2 Talking to the user: =E2=80=9Cpuedes hacer =E2=80=A6=E2=80= =9D rather than =E2=80=9Cusuarios pueden >> hacer =E2=80=A6=E2=80=9D. >>=20 >> =E2=80=A2 Using the -e suffix, which has the advantage of being concis= e and >> readable, but potentially off-putting (at least today). >>=20 >> =E2=80=A2 Using repetitions, =E2=80=9Cusuarias y usuarios=E2=80=9D. >>=20 >> Latin languages (among others) are problematic but techniques like these >> can get us a long way, and by mixing them we can avoid making the text >> hard to read. >>=20 >> Ludo=E2=80=99. >>=20 > Hi, > > tl;dr: > > IMO this whole language neutering project, whose goal UIAM is > purportedly to exclude exclusion, is self-contradictory. > ... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance ps.: edited by the bottom reply inquisition :)