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Resent-From: Ludovic =?UTF-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?= Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: guix-patches@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2024 11:28:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 69302 X-GNU-PR-Package: guix-patches X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch To: Oleg Pykhalov Cc: 69302@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 69302-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B69302.170877402827664 (code B ref 69302); Sat, 24 Feb 2024 11:28:02 +0000 Received: (at 69302) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Feb 2024 11:27:08 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49154 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rdqBM-0007Bv-Fw for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 24 Feb 2024 06:27:07 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:52546) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rdqBG-0007B2-PR for 69302@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 24 Feb 2024 06:27:02 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rdqAn-0003j5-72; Sat, 24 Feb 2024 06:26:29 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-Version:Date:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:To: From; bh=u6yU6kUstVz8POvPAdDPy80+mwcebUbzZz0GjTr/wnA=; b=az43IgYM9ioRyw+a2juR CakdgfzYObhWreI6Wt+8ITvXQQivaE1E+gIyfSs+GNjy8W7N7ryf8fG1JO+nMZytGBhgL68JFa4WU IC87CknJXhNrrpwNPY+QqR0digD0hTBSPS+8mU6zQ3gfuuOB+1ypqWYtEC8xORYsmk7XVHVpIMyIM wuzvhJftyElDZPv3he4aoMgz5SvQQXS0s1nvVDVXAKhK+w7XlJMHp87N4qSy9WBSu1wSGkwVDTXcl 2DYLsg9Zq/nbQYYlMfO/m73SOXwhQWYW/3gQpomyPZ1IG+issikZ87EE/0W6jYzaByC69WnlYpXhN co+QP5Gqwq2waQ==; From: Ludovic =?UTF-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?= In-Reply-To: <87v86gcwzz.fsf@gmail.com> (Oleg Pykhalov's message of "Thu, 22 Feb 2024 18:57:36 +0300") References: <87v86gcwzz.fsf@gmail.com> X-URL: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ X-Revolutionary-Date: Sextidi 6 =?UTF-8?Q?Vent=C3=B4se?= an 232 de la =?UTF-8?Q?R=C3=A9volution,?= jour de l'Asaret X-PGP-Key-ID: 0x090B11993D9AEBB5 X-PGP-Key: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ludovic.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: 3CE4 6455 8A84 FDC6 9DB4 0CFB 090B 1199 3D9A EBB5 X-OS: x86_64-pc-linux-gnu Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2024 12:26:27 +0100 Message-ID: <87le7acdcs.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: guix-patches@gnu.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-patches-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: guix-patches-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -6.77 X-Spam-Score: -6.77 X-Migadu-Queue-Id: B248D5464B X-Migadu-Scanner: mx13.migadu.com X-TUID: wlWDNjXIucd3 Hi Oleg, Oleg Pykhalov skribis: >> +@example >> +/gnu/store/@dots{}-run-vm.sh >> +@end example >> + >> +@noindent >> +In this VM, you can log in as @code{root} with no password. That's a >> +good way to check that your configuration file is correct and that it >> +gives the expected result, without touching your system. @xref{Invoking >> +guix system}, for more information. > > What are your thoughts on the description of the 'file-systems' and > 'bootloader' fields? Should users not rely on them during this test? These fields have no effect when using =E2=80=98guix system vm=E2=80=99. D= id you mean that this should be clarified? > Additionally, static networking configuration will not function > correctly in the generated '/gnu/store/...-run-vm.sh' script unless > specific flags are provided. Good point. I see several ways out of it: (1) change =E2=80=98virtualized-operating-system=E2=80=99 to replace =E2=80=98static-networking-service-type=E2=80=99 with =E2=80=98dhcp-client-= service-type=E2=80=99, or (2) mention it in the doc, or (3) do nothing, assuming that people using static networking are already advanced users and not really the target audience of this section. Thoughts? Ludo=E2=80=99.