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[194.254.61.44]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id ffacd0b85a97d-3683f244e15sm1483325f8f.0.2024.07.17.11.52.01 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Wed, 17 Jul 2024 11:52:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Simon Tournier To: Ludovic =?utf-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?= , Ian Eure Cc: guix-devel Subject: Re: Reducing "You found a bug" reports In-Reply-To: <878qz3913k.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87frtmu7ov.fsf@meson> <878qz3913k.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2024 20:24:16 +0200 Message-ID: <87le1zev1r.fsf@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a00:1450:4864:20::42f; envelope-from=zimon.toutoune@gmail.com; helo=mail-wr1-x42f.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: guix-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Queue-Id: B3B52306C0 X-Migadu-Scanner: mx12.migadu.com X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -9.48 X-Spam-Score: -9.48 X-TUID: 5CiQuPSY1oN1 Hi, On Mon, 17 Jun 2024 at 14:59, Ludovic Court=C3=A8s wrote: >> It doesn=E2=80=99t feel great to tell users to report a bug for things t= hat >> aren=E2=80=99t bugs. They=E2=80=99re either closed, or never followed u= p on; it=E2=80=99s a >> poor experience on both ends. > > I agree, it=E2=80=99s pretty bad. > > I=E2=80=99m fine removing the =E2=80=9Creport a bug=E2=80=9D message, may= be replacing it with > some clearer diagnostic and suggestion? WDYT? Could we detect if it comes from networking? Somehow catch the error and run some code that checks stuff and so report more =E2=80=9Caccurate=E2= =80=9D messages? Well, easier to say=E2=80=A6 :-) Cheers, simon