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Fri, 06 Sep 2024 03:31:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lili ([2a01:e0a:59b:9120:34c8:9fc9:674c:115f]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id ffacd0b85a97d-374c231e907sm15759297f8f.86.2024.09.06.03.31.33 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Fri, 06 Sep 2024 03:31:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Simon Tournier In-Reply-To: <87msklct5u.fsf@gmail.com> References: <15bfd834d58da9d8910b0945689aa8cd4e8ff48c.1725498442.git.zimon.toutoune@gmail.com> <87msklct5u.fsf@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 06 Sep 2024 12:31:21 +0200 Message-ID: <87le05hy4m.fsf@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: guix-patches@gnu.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-patches-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: guix-patches-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Queue-Id: D02983DE28 X-Migadu-Scanner: mx13.migadu.com X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -8.92 X-Spam-Score: -8.92 X-TUID: 43GBsIX599LV Hi Maxim, On Fri, 06 Sep 2024 at 13:17, Maxim Cournoyer w= rote: >> And this appears to me a bad idea, because 1. it makes harder to know wh= at are >> the inputs and more importantly 2. it is hidden from procedure >> =E2=80=99package-direct-sources=E2=80=99, which means it will not be arc= hived. > > I believe your argument 1. is going to affect any label-free package > definitions needing additional origins copied in, so the issue is bigger > than just this commit, in my opinion. Well, is it not changing the scope of the work being reviewed? If not, sorry, I do not understand what you mean. Could you explain more? In my views, what comes from the outside should be listed under inputs, native-inputs or propagated-inputs. I mean, that=E2=80=99s somehow the principle from functional paradigm. Putting an =E2=80=99origin=E2=80=99 in= side an arguments is somehow a way to get around that principle, IMHO. For instance, packages farstream, gnulib-checkout, smithforth, gnome-recipes and dmd-bootstrap should also be fixed. If you mean that it=E2=80=99s not easy to fix, from my understanding, it ch= anges the scope of the work being reviewed but let take the opportunity to discuss. :-) Currently it=E2=80=99s not possible to write something like: --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- (native-inputs (append (list `("foo" ,(origin (method git-fetch) (uri (git-reference (url "https://somewhere.org/plop") (commit (string-append "v" version)))) (file-name (git-file-name "plip" version)) (sha256 (base32 "xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx= xxxxxx"))))) (list bar baz and other))) --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- It appears to me that something is lacking: inputs-append. ;-) We could have a macro or a procedure that does the dance, allowing to mix both =E2=80=9Cstyles=E2=80=9D. > About 2; perhaps it'd be preferable to build the doc from source, if > that doesn't introduce cycles or too large of a native inputs graph. This is out of the scope, IMHO. Yes, I agree: it might be preferable but while waiting, it appears to me even more preferable to not have a package that hides all its sources. ;-) Cheers, simon