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From: David Thompson <dthompson2@worcester.edu>
To: "Bruno Félix Rezende Ribeiro" <oitofelix@gnu.org>,
	"Ludovic Courtès" <ludo@gnu.org>
Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Help needed for screenshots
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2014 08:51:09 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87k32spqgi.fsf@izanagi.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20141117133535.7647c0ef@freedom-laptop>

Bruno Félix Rezende Ribeiro <oitofelix@gnu.org> writes:

> Em Mon, 17 Nov 2014 16:13:16 +0100
> ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès) escreveu:
>
>> I’d rather remove the table altogether, unless LibreJS really uses it.
>
> LibreJS *really* needs it.  JavaScript License Web Labels is the
> preferred, and practical, method for labeling third party scripts as
> free [0].
>
>> And even if LibreJS uses it, I’d rather make it invisible.
>
> Wouldn't that defeat one of the purposes of the method's design?
> People should have easy access to the source code of the programs they
> are running.  If we hide the table, people won't easily find the source
> code.  So, what would be the purpose of stating them as free in the
> first place?
>
> I think the best solution is to make a separate page
> 'javascript.html' with the table, and put a small, but prominent,
> LibreJS logo linking to that page, like I did for my personal web site. 

I think moving the weblabels table to a separate page would be good.  It
clutters the page footer.  If users *really* want to see the licenses
and links to individual source files, they can click a link in the
footer that brings them to the table.  However, LibreJS exists because
most users *aren't* going to check that the JavaScript is free before
running it, so we automate the process.

I understand the rationale for weblabels, but I think they are a bad
technical decision that has caused me lots of annoying issues when they
mysteriously don't work.  I would much prefer a terse JSON
representation of this data intended for a program to read.  Why scrape
a web page when you have other options?  Why enforce markup restrictions
on web developers?

Sorry for the rant.

-- 
David Thompson
Web Developer - Free Software Foundation - http://fsf.org
GPG Key: 0FF1D807
Support the FSF: https://fsf.org/donate

  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-11-18 13:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-11-14  9:38 Help needed for screenshots Ludovic Courtès
2014-11-14 19:35 ` Bruno Félix Rezende Ribeiro
2014-11-14 21:47   ` Ludovic Courtès
2014-11-14 23:02     ` Bruno Félix Rezende Ribeiro
2014-11-15 15:18       ` Felipe López
2014-11-15 15:30         ` Bruno Félix Rezende Ribeiro
2014-11-15 16:34           ` Felipe López
2014-11-15 17:57         ` Ludovic Courtès
2014-11-15 19:03           ` Felipe López
2014-11-16 17:19             ` Ludovic Courtès
2014-11-16  5:19           ` Bruno Félix Rezende Ribeiro
2014-11-17 13:26             ` Ludovic Courtès
2014-11-17 13:32               ` Ludovic Courtès
2014-11-17 13:49               ` Felipe López
2014-11-17 14:43               ` Bruno Félix Rezende Ribeiro
2014-11-17 15:00                 ` Bruno Félix Rezende Ribeiro
2014-11-17 15:13                 ` Ludovic Courtès
2014-11-17 15:35                   ` Bruno Félix Rezende Ribeiro
2014-11-17 16:50                     ` Ludovic Courtès
2014-11-17 18:44                       ` Bruno Félix Rezende Ribeiro
2014-11-17 20:37                         ` Ludovic Courtès
2014-11-18 13:51                     ` David Thompson [this message]
2014-11-18 16:08                       ` Felipe López
2014-11-18 20:45                       ` Ludovic Courtès
2014-11-19  4:33                         ` Bruno Félix Rezende Ribeiro
2014-11-19  8:55                           ` Ludovic Courtès

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