From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: taylanbayirli@gmail.com (Taylan Ulrich =?utf-8?Q?Bay=C4=B1rl=C4=B1?= =?utf-8?Q?=2FKammer?=) Subject: Re: Guix != GNU GSD ==> True Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2015 11:50:20 +0100 Message-ID: <87k307rxg3.fsf@taylan.uni.cx> References: <8761dcc693.fsf@invergo.net> <87sigemze4.fsf@gnu.org> <20150121193716.GF11138@alien.local> <874mrgo399.fsf@gnu.org> <87h9vccs2h.fsf_-_@unicorn.home> <54C7B7B9.6050706@gnu.org> <20150128004919.088295fb@freedom-laptop> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:50982) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YGQCa-0005Tw-Cn for guix-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 28 Jan 2015 05:50:29 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YGQCY-0001On-TN for guix-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 28 Jan 2015 05:50:28 -0500 In-Reply-To: <20150128004919.088295fb@freedom-laptop> ("Bruno =?utf-8?Q?F?= =?utf-8?Q?=C3=A9lix?= Rezende Ribeiro"'s message of "Wed, 28 Jan 2015 00:49:19 -0200") List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+gcggd-guix-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: guix-devel-bounces+gcggd-guix-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Bruno =?utf-8?Q?F=C3=A9lix?= Rezende Ribeiro Cc: hellekin , gnu-system-discuss@gnu.org, rms@gnu.org, guix-devel@gnu.org Bruno F=C3=A9lix Rezende Ribeiro writes: > I hope GNU GSD will have a logo of its own where your suggestion may > be written. I suspect that the more "branding" we give to GSD, the more it will cause people to see it as "yet another Linux distro" and not understand that it's a distribution of GNU. This is why I like the name GSD (Guix System Distribution) which is relatively dry and doesn't stand out as a fancy "distro name", why I think it's important to only use the name in technical conversation where it's necessary to distinguish GSD from other manifestations of GNU (otherwise just say GNU when a lay person asks about your operating system preference), and why I think we should intentionally not have a logo. I wish projects such as gNewSense and Parabola had done the same and gotten direct links to their installation images on a page such as , where they're simply listed as "models" or "versions" of GNU, with names like "parabola" and "trisquel" only serving as code-names or "model" names, perhaps analogous to Astra and Vectra (from Opel) to make a good old car analogy. We really need a break from, or almost a fight against, this whole "distro" culture, which is tied to the "Linux" mindset, and perhaps even "open source". Everybody knows open source, "Linux", and what "distros" are (flavors of Linux, duh!), nobody knows about free software and GNU. This is my experience in Germany with lay people who happened to hear about "Linux", people who are "Linux enthusiast" themselves, and even some programmers and others in the tech industry. I work at a software company of around 20 people, and while about all 20 know what "Linux distros" are, maybe one or two of them have a bit of a clue about GNU, and another handful think it's a software license, or some obscure side project alongside "Linux", or something like that. (I actually questioned many of them in small talk.) It's an incredibly nasty situation. Taylan